OK, I got the video uploaded

[shipwreck]

This was e-mailed to me from a National tourney or at the least a Regional. What do you think about the stepping out of the 24" PP. You need to hit the play arrow twice to see the video. Dave

[WestMichBlue]

Originally Posted by shipwreck

This was e-mailed to me from a National tourney or at the least a Regional. What do you think about the stepping out of the 24" PP. You need to hit the play arrow twice to see the video. Dave

Absolutely I am calling that. And I do.

WMB

[hotmatt]

Looks like an IP that should have been called. But, is her whole foot outside of the plate? Hard to be 100% sure. I've called that more than any other IP infraction.

[whiskers_ump]

Originally Posted by shipwreck

This was e-mailed to me from a National tourney or at the least a Regional. What do you think about the stepping out of the 24" PP. You need to hit the play arrow twice to see the video. Dave

Just getting a good start on a pitchout......Real good....

[Mountaineer]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Two pitchers called for that this HS season.
pitcher 1) removed from that team's next game by assigner
pitcher 2) mentioned in newspaper as "called illegal pitches again", dropped from State Tournament games

That's crap! For calling the rules? I called it against a ranked team's ace this year - they were from about an hour away. The coach said they don't call that in our area - my smartass reply - Welcome to Charleston! The pitcher looked at me and asked "How am I supposed to throw my curveball?" I looked at the coach and said, "If that's not proof she's gaining an advantage, I don't know what is." He nodded in agreement and we went on to finish the game. I got her early and she corrected it. It doesn't bother me in the least to call that. But just like a crow hop or a leap or leaving early it has to be VERY obvious. Like this one . . .

[ASA/NYSSOBLUE]

[QUOTE=CecilOne]Two pitchers called for that this HS season.
pitcher 1) removed from that team's next game by assigner
pitcher 2) mentioned in newspaper as "called illegal pitches again", dropped from State Tournament games[/QUOTE

you mean 'umpire 1/2' dont you?

and yes, that is INSANE...no wonder we don't get respect!

where the heck WAS this anyways??

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

where the heck WAS this anyways??

Yes, where was this?

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Yes, where was this?

Let's drop it and delete references to it.

[Bandit]

Let's look at this from a different direction. Anyone see the position of the umpire. I have been taught to put my head or eyes at the "top" of the strike zone. The umpire in this video seems to have the umpire setting up really high. Agreed? Disagree?

[hotmatt]

Originally Posted by Bandit

Let's look at this from a different direction. Anyone see the position of the umpire. I have been taught to put my head or eyes at the "top" of the strike zone. The umpire in this video seems to have the umpire setting up really high. Agreed? Disagree?

Might be a case of listening too closely to the defensive coach telling the catcher to pitch out and look at the runner at first. I'm guilty of that. You see a team enough times in the summer and you get to know their signs and tendencies.

[Mountaineer]

Originally Posted by Bandit

Let's look at this from a different direction. Anyone see the position of the umpire. I have been taught to put my head or eyes at the "top" of the strike zone. The umpire in this video seems to have the umpire setting up really high. Agreed? Disagree?

There are some schools of thought (LL for one) that harken to the major leagues mechanics and want you to set up your chin at the top of the catcher's helmet. I just think that's way to high. I'm with Bandit - I put my eyes at the top and the inside corner of the strike zone. Of course, he might not be able to get down any farther than that . . .

[wadeintothem]

Only thing I can tell for sure from that video is that its a ball.

That video as is is not conclusive as an illegal pitch . Its close and IMO at best, nit picky. Inch +/- assuming the pitchers plate is a full 24 in

[shipwreck]

If THAT is nit picky, I'd love to see what you would call a blatant illegal act by a pitcher. You can see from the video that the pitcher is starting completely on the left outside part of the PP if even both feet ARE within the PP width. You can clearly see how wide the plate is and it is 17" wide, and another 3.5" on each side should equal the width of the PP. Extend the edges of the plate out for a reference point. She steps WAY outside of this. Dave

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by shipwreck

If THAT is nit picky, I'd love to see what you would call a blatant illegal act by a pitcher. You can see from the video that the pitcher is starting completely on the left outside part of the PP if even both feet ARE within the PP width. You can clearly see how wide the plate is and it is 17" wide, and another 3.5" on each side should equal the width of the PP. Extend the edges of the plate out for a reference point. She steps WAY outside of this. Dave

The PP is 24" wide, even if it's not all there.

[Mountaineer]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

The PP is 24" wide, even if it's not all there.

Is that by rule?