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shipwreck Wed Aug 09, 2006 06:32pm

OK, I got the video uploaded
 
This was e-mailed to me from a National tourney or at the least a Regional. What do you think about the stepping out of the 24" PP. You need to hit the play arrow twice to see the video. Dave
<embed style="width:400px; height:326px;" id="VideoPlayback" align="middle" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=8060182405783676050&hl=en" quality="best" bgcolor="#ffffff" scale="noScale" salign="TL" FlashVars="playerMode=embedded"> </embed>

WestMichBlue Wed Aug 09, 2006 07:10pm

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Originally Posted by shipwreck
This was e-mailed to me from a National tourney or at the least a Regional. What do you think about the stepping out of the 24" PP. You need to hit the play arrow twice to see the video. Dave </EMBED>

Absolutely I am calling that. And I do.

WMB

hotmatt Wed Aug 09, 2006 07:35pm

Looks like an IP that should have been called. But, is her whole foot outside of the plate? Hard to be 100% sure. I've called that more than any other IP infraction.

whiskers_ump Wed Aug 09, 2006 08:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by shipwreck
This was e-mailed to me from a National tourney or at the least a Regional. What do you think about the stepping out of the 24" PP. You need to hit the play arrow twice to see the video. Dave
<embed style="width:400px; height:326px;" id="VideoPlayback" align="middle" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=8060182405783676050&hl=en" quality="best" bgcolor="#ffffff" scale="noScale" salign="TL" FlashVars="playerMode=embedded"> </embed>

Just getting a good start on a pitchout......Real good....

Mountaineer Thu Aug 10, 2006 08:11am

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Originally Posted by CecilOne
Two pitchers called for that this HS season.
pitcher 1) removed from that team's next game by assigner
pitcher 2) mentioned in newspaper as "called illegal pitches again", dropped from State Tournament games

That's crap! For calling the rules? I called it against a ranked team's ace this year - they were from about an hour away. The coach said they don't call that in our area - my smartass reply - Welcome to Charleston! The pitcher looked at me and asked "How am I supposed to throw my curveball?" I looked at the coach and said, "If that's not proof she's gaining an advantage, I don't know what is." He nodded in agreement and we went on to finish the game. I got her early and she corrected it. It doesn't bother me in the least to call that. But just like a crow hop or a leap or leaving early it has to be VERY obvious. Like this one . . .

ASA/NYSSOBLUE Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:55am

[QUOTE=CecilOne]Two pitchers called for that this HS season.
pitcher 1) removed from that team's next game by assigner
pitcher 2) mentioned in newspaper as "called illegal pitches again", dropped from State Tournament games[/QUOTE

you mean 'umpire 1/2' dont you?

and yes, that is INSANE...no wonder we don't get respect!

where the heck WAS this anyways??

IRISHMAFIA Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:10am

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Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

where the heck WAS this anyways??

Yes, where was this?

CecilOne Thu Aug 10, 2006 02:30pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA
Yes, where was this?

Let's drop it and delete references to it.

Bandit Fri Aug 11, 2006 07:28am

Umpire Position
 
Let's look at this from a different direction. Anyone see the position of the umpire. I have been taught to put my head or eyes at the "top" of the strike zone. The umpire in this video seems to have the umpire setting up really high. Agreed? Disagree?

hotmatt Fri Aug 11, 2006 07:49am

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Originally Posted by Bandit
Let's look at this from a different direction. Anyone see the position of the umpire. I have been taught to put my head or eyes at the "top" of the strike zone. The umpire in this video seems to have the umpire setting up really high. Agreed? Disagree?

Might be a case of listening too closely to the defensive coach telling the catcher to pitch out and look at the runner at first. I'm guilty of that. You see a team enough times in the summer and you get to know their signs and tendencies.

Mountaineer Fri Aug 11, 2006 01:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bandit
Let's look at this from a different direction. Anyone see the position of the umpire. I have been taught to put my head or eyes at the "top" of the strike zone. The umpire in this video seems to have the umpire setting up really high. Agreed? Disagree?

There are some schools of thought (LL for one) that harken to the major leagues mechanics and want you to set up your chin at the top of the catcher's helmet. I just think that's way to high. I'm with Bandit - I put my eyes at the top and the inside corner of the strike zone. Of course, he might not be able to get down any farther than that . . .

wadeintothem Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:04am

Only thing I can tell for sure from that video is that its a ball.

That video as is is not conclusive as an illegal pitch . Its close and IMO at best, nit picky. Inch +/- assuming the pitchers plate is a full 24 in

shipwreck Sat Aug 12, 2006 02:12pm

If THAT is nit picky, I'd love to see what you would call a blatant illegal act by a pitcher. You can see from the video that the pitcher is starting completely on the left outside part of the PP if even both feet ARE within the PP width. You can clearly see how wide the plate is and it is 17" wide, and another 3.5" on each side should equal the width of the PP. Extend the edges of the plate out for a reference point. She steps WAY outside of this. Dave

CecilOne Sat Aug 12, 2006 04:44pm

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Originally Posted by shipwreck
If THAT is nit picky, I'd love to see what you would call a blatant illegal act by a pitcher. You can see from the video that the pitcher is starting completely on the left outside part of the PP if even both feet ARE within the PP width. You can clearly see how wide the plate is and it is 17" wide, and another 3.5" on each side should equal the width of the PP. Extend the edges of the plate out for a reference point. She steps WAY outside of this. Dave

The PP is 24" wide, even if it's not all there.

Mountaineer Sat Aug 12, 2006 07:56pm

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Originally Posted by CecilOne
The PP is 24" wide, even if it's not all there.

Is that by rule?


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