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Old Thu Jul 13, 2006, 05:17pm
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Question Umpire Ruling Needed

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Situation - Bases are loaded. The basecoach calls timeout and wanted his 3 runners together for a conference. The 3 leave their bases and come to the coach who is out between 2nd base and 3rd base. The umpire grants time and after seeing what is being done, ends the conference immediately.

What is the ruling ?

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Old Thu Jul 13, 2006, 05:20pm
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Greetings !!!

Situation - Bases are loaded. The basecoach calls timeout and wanted his 3 runners together for a conference. The 3 leave their bases and come to the coach who is out between 2nd base and 3rd base. The umpire grants time and after seeing what is being done, ends the conference immediately.

What is the ruling ?

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One conference per inning, batter or runner(s).

Why "ends the conference immediately"?
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Old Thu Jul 13, 2006, 06:50pm
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Greetings !!!

Situation - Bases are loaded. The basecoach calls timeout and wanted his 3 runners together for a conference. The 3 leave their bases and come to the coach who is out between 2nd base and 3rd base. The umpire grants time and after seeing what is being done, ends the conference immediately.

What is the ruling ?

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Just as well be the first to note that the coach is not authorized to suspend play. S/he may request time, but only the umpire may rule so.

However, if time wasn't granted and the pitcher is in the circle with possession of the ball when the runners leave their respective bases, guess what?

Call one out, then grant the charged conference
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Old Thu Jul 13, 2006, 10:38pm
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Just as well be the first to note that the coach is not authorized to suspend play. S/he may request time, but only the umpire may rule so.

However, if time wasn't granted and the pitcher is in the circle with possession of the ball when the runners leave their respective bases, guess what?

Call one out, then grant the charged conference
"The umpire grants time..."

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Old Fri Jul 14, 2006, 01:29am
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Originally Posted by Coach Joe
Greetings !!!

Situation - Bases are loaded. The basecoach calls timeout and wanted his 3 runners together for a conference. The 3 leave their bases and come to the coach who is out between 2nd base and 3rd base. The umpire grants time and after seeing what is being done, ends the conference immediately.

What is the ruling ?

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Your question lacks.. .. well, a question.

There isnt enough clarity in your scenario to give any real response.

try again coach.
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Old Fri Jul 14, 2006, 05:31am
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I wonder if he did that because he saw what was being done or if it was because of something else that was happening.
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Old Fri Jul 14, 2006, 05:56am
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"The umpire grants time..."

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Yep. And the manner in which I'm reading the post, that was after the fact. Maybe the post needs a little clarification.
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Old Fri Jul 14, 2006, 07:52am
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I, too, am thinking there's something we're not being told. Maybe the coach is trying to play shuffle-the-runners? Giving them water?
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Old Fri Jul 14, 2006, 09:10am
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...after seeing what is being done, ends the conference immediately.
So, what was being done?
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Old Fri Jul 14, 2006, 09:21am
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I guess you folks have never seen this kind of riddle before...

Even though he says, "What is the ruling?", he's not asking for a ruling - he's asking for an explanation.

He's asking us to see if we can figure out what happened to cause this situation to occur. IE - what did the umpire see?

It's like one of these: "A man is found dead, face down in a field wearing an unopened backpack. What happened?" One answer being that this man was a parachutist whose chute failed to open.

That said, I cannot come up with the answer. Can you?
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Old Fri Jul 14, 2006, 11:29am
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Greetings !!!

Situation - Bases are loaded. The basecoach calls timeout and wanted his 3 runners together for a conference. The 3 leave their bases and come to the coach who is out between 2nd base and 3rd base. The umpire grants time and after seeing what is being done, ends the conference immediately.

What is the ruling ?

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The answer is obvious:

Depends on how big a jerk the coach has been during the game.
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Old Fri Jul 14, 2006, 12:26pm
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Not sure this is what he is trying to get out, but some umpires and coaches seem to believe that an offensive conference cannot be legally held in fair territory. I suspect that comes from some alleged LL rulings (if they even ever existed) that the coach must stay behind the foul lines and players must come to him.

Don't do LL, so if that isn't correct, or has changed, or is limited in age levels, I don't know. Just an observation and guess what may have caused what was reported.
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Old Fri Jul 14, 2006, 01:05pm
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Not sure this is what he is trying to get out, but some umpires and coaches seem to believe that an offensive conference cannot be legally held in fair territory. I suspect that comes from some alleged LL rulings (if they even ever existed) that the coach must stay behind the foul lines and players must come to him.

Don't do LL, so if that isn't correct, or has changed, or is limited in age levels, I don't know. Just an observation and guess what may have caused what was reported.
LL dropped that requirement last year, I believe.
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Old Fri Jul 14, 2006, 01:23pm
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LL dropped that requirement last year, I believe.
You are correct at all LL age levels, Oh Great One!
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Old Fri Jul 14, 2006, 01:29pm
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Yep. And the manner in which I'm reading the post, that was after the fact. Maybe the post needs a little clarification.
Unfortunately, about 90% of non-umps who ask questions leave out about 90% of the pertinent info.

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