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Tue Jun 27, 2006, 02:30pm
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Line up card holders
I've been using the old ASA vinyl folders for holding lineup cards.
 They work OK (a bit small for some cards). But the vinyl is starting to crack at the hinge, so I'm needing replacements. Honigs sells two kinds. I put my holder in the back pocket of my pants, so I'm not too sure about the metal clip on this one:  and I wonder if this one:  would provide a good, hard writing surface to back up some of the flimsy line up sheets I get. It looks like it might be just a vinyl pocket-protector kind of thing. Both the Honigs products are more expensive than the ASA one. What do you guys use?
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Tue Jun 27, 2006, 02:35pm
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I use the Honigs with the metal clip. I've never had a problem with the clip, but I carry it in the inside pocket of my ball bag.
Personally, I don't like the ASA one. I think it's too small.
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Tue Jun 27, 2006, 03:06pm
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I use the ASA type, primarily because it holds my bat ring nicely... but I am experiencing the plastic cracking at the hinge as well.
We have guys who use the Honigs type (both styles) and have no issues with them. The third one pictured has a cardboard backing, so it's ok to write on (i.e.: it's not totally plastic).
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Tue Jun 27, 2006, 03:09pm
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Correct that the ASA one is too small, exactly sized at the minimum production cost with room for the logo. I've given up using the insert windows and just use it for weather protection.
I might try the mini-clip one for wind resistance, but I don't sit on mine. 
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Tue Jun 27, 2006, 03:20pm
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Use the ASA holder with rubber bands to hold line-ups. I have been known to use checkbook covers.
However, when working championship play, I use the ASA and just take my time unfolding and keeping the line-ups.
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Tue Jun 27, 2006, 03:54pm
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I use the Honig's one with the metal clip and have never had a problem. I keep it in the pocket in my ball bag. They tend to last me about 2 seasons because of the plastic cracking at the hinge too. It's only a few bucks - the cost of doing business. I like that one though.
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Tue Jun 27, 2006, 06:06pm
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I have been using the "Officials Game Keeper" for the last 3 seasons and love it. Line ups slide right in on both sides. Very easy to use. I got mine on Ebay but they have a website: www.officialsgamekeeper.com
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