When do you call "Time!"

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

The rule I use to kill the ball says an umpire can call time.. what rule are you referring too?

10-8-I says the umpire is to kill the ball when all immediate play has been completed. That is apparently your standard, which you also apparently interpret to fall into the "conditions justify" clause of 10-8-A, which I claim was not the intent at all.

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

Its not a straw man to talk about the picking off the runners on base - thats a specific argument on the part of posters on your side of the argument that killing the ball (when its effectively dead anyway once in the circle with F1 and runners are on bag, barring knuckleheadness not worthy of discussion) prevents a pitcher from attempting to pick off the runner.

Yes, it is a straw man argument in replying to my posts, since I never raised that argument. I am arguing against killing the ball just because you, the umpire, think things should stop now.

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

Play is dead.. people are waiting.. thats all thats happening.

What people are waiting? Can't you keep a game moving without killing it?

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

Course IMO, in timed games, its the girls you are robbing when you can only get in 4 innings in a buck 20 and wonder why FP is so slow. Its their game though, let em lag.

all you want. My original, and still, objection to your philosophy is that you apparently kill the ball during live action merely because the players are too slow and are keeping you out of the shade.

If you care to reply to me again, keep it to that topic, will you? And quit dragging in all of your other silliness about 5 minutes between innings, people waiting on a pitch to happen, etc., etc. All of that can be controlled without calling TIME 200 times a game.