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Old Wed May 24, 2006, 09:26am
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Overthrow and awarding bases.....
ASA SP game........Runner on 1st. Line drive to the SS who catches it for an out. R1 takes off for 2B but,after seeing the catch, he turns to go back to 1B. Ball is overthrown into the dugout. Is it a two base award and if it is does he go to 3B or 2B? The reason for the last part is ,if it is a two base award and he is on his way BACK to 1B ,are his two bases 1B (since he is going back to try to re-occupy it) and 2B ?
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Old Wed May 24, 2006, 09:34am
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The award is 2 bases from the runner's position at the time of the throw. Position, not direction. Direction makes no difference. 3B.
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Old Wed May 24, 2006, 09:49am
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ASA direction does not count, runner on third. USSSA Direction does count, runner on second.

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Old Wed May 24, 2006, 10:00am
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The OP specified ASA.
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Old Wed May 24, 2006, 10:50am
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Just remember that R1 is still responsible for tagging up at first before he takes his award to third base.
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Old Wed May 24, 2006, 12:19pm
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USSSA Direction does count, runner on second.
Maybe in SP. Not in FP.
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Old Wed May 24, 2006, 02:55pm
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Maybe in SP. Not in FP.
What about Fed?
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Old Wed May 24, 2006, 03:11pm
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What about Fed?
Everywhere except red-shirt slowpitch.
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Old Wed May 24, 2006, 03:21pm
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Everywhere except red-shirt slowpitch.
I wasn't following the thread closely enough
I thought that the comment about FP was in regard to the runner having to tag up prior to receiving the award.
I thought that skahtboi was saying that you did not have to tag up before the award in ASA so I was asking about FED
I am thinking you have to tag up regardless because of the "all awarded bases must be touched" concept.
Sorry about the ramble and the question
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Old Wed May 24, 2006, 04:13pm
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I wasn't following the thread closely enough
I thought that the comment about FP was in regard to the runner having to tag up prior to receiving the award.
I thought that skahtboi was saying that you did not have to tag up before the award in ASA so I was asking about FED
I am thinking you have to tag up regardless because of the "all awarded bases must be touched" concept.
Sorry about the ramble and the question
The SP/FP/U3/others was about how the 2 base award is calculated. Apparently in U3 SP it's really 1 base.
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Old Wed May 24, 2006, 04:52pm
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The SP/FP/U3/others was about how the 2 base award is calculated. Apparently in U3 SP it's really 1 base.
USSSA perpetuates the old (and otherwise totally discredited) one plus one; the one the runner was going to plus one. If heading forward, two bases; if heading back, one base.
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Old Thu May 25, 2006, 08:01am
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USSSA perpetuates the old (and otherwise totally discredited) one plus one; the one the runner was going to plus one. If heading forward, two bases; if heading back, one base.
Right, I should have said "one base if running in reverse". But then, I was being a little facetious and don't really care about U3.

I guess we have to compliment those umpires on always being able to see all the runners' direction while watching the ball in a one umpire system.
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Old Thu May 25, 2006, 10:35am
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USSSA perpetuates the old (and otherwise totally discredited) one plus one; the one the runner was going to plus one. If heading forward, two bases; if heading back, one base.
Again, may be true in SP, but not in FP.
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