Technically Yes....But

whiskers_ump · #1 (**permalink**) Sun Jul 08, 2001, 06:21pm

What are your thoughts on this one guys??

ASA, State Tournament - utilizing double
base.

Batter walks, races to 1B, turns to the
outside returns to orange portion of 1B
assumes her I'm stealing position;
meanwhile, pitcher is in circle receiving
signal - when BU calls *no pitch* R1 is
out - not on base while ball is in circle
and no play being made.

oppool · #2 (**permalink**) Sun Jul 08, 2001, 07:17pm

Papasmurf

If the baserunner is only making contact with the orange side and none of her foot is touching white this is a correct call.

Kinda picky but they got to learn somehow

JMHO

Don

whiskers_ump · #3 (**permalink**) Sun Jul 08, 2001, 08:45pm

Don,

I agree, our UIC told us to avoid it rest
of way by telling coaches to have runners
in right position - he did not like the
idea of a cheap out since we were deep in
tournament when this became a factor. UIC
at tournament also has a lot to do with rule
changes, and this will be looked at.

thanks for reply,
glen

Gulf Coast Blue · #4 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 09, 2001, 06:27am

papas........we went over this is our pre-tournament talk......once the BR has passed 1st to consider the orange base as dirt.......

Joel

Gulf Coast Blue · #5 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 09, 2001, 05:31pm

Glen.......

I just realized it was George who told y'all to avoid this.....wow.

I thought he would be a real stickler on this......I agree it is a cheap out.......but as some like to say........dem's da rulz.........

Joel

Steve M · #6 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 09, 2001, 07:36pm

I'll grant that this double base is kinda new and may need some additional discussion at the pre-game to remind coaches. And in league games, maybe even invitational tournaments, I can see calling time and reminding players/coaches that the orange base is "not there" for anyone except the batter-runner. But I am of the opinion that in state championship play, this violation should be called - just like removing the helmet during a live ball. By the way, we used the double base in our men's districts this past weekend. They loved it - and these guys usually whine about everything.

IRISHMAFIA · #7 (**permalink**) Tue Jul 10, 2001, 06:18am

Steve,

The rules for double base are almost as bad as the DEFO. The defense can use the colored portion on a throw from foul territory on the right side OR on any errant throw. The second half of that negates the safety factor of the double base and give the defense a distinct advantage on a bad throw.

Mike