Umpire putting Batter/Runner in jeopardy?

[Justme]

Originally posted by mcrowder
Didn't mean to slam anyone. I just think that if you're going to not really ask for BR's opinion, you are being more honest if you simply don't ask than if you make up a system so that you look like you ask, but aren't really asking. JMHO.

The way we handle it (and it could be perceived as wrong by some as well) is on iffy calls where immediate input is necessary, we (PU's) will ask immediately without waiting for F2 to ask us to get help. We cover this in pregame as well so that BU is ready for it. PU will call it as they see it, but immediately point to BU, who will immediately answer. This clears up any chance of us A) getting the wrong call, or B) jeopardizing either runner or defense.

IMHO this is the second best mechanic in this situation, just behind that unmentionable baseball mechanic. I think I’ll use it.

I want to ask you one question before I do, do if you ever get any ‘crap’ when you use this mechanic because you just called the pitch and then you immediately go to your partner for help?

It’s pretty obvious that any defensive coach is going to ask you to go for help in this situation (with 2 strikes on the batter). I know that I always did back in the days when I coached some.

[mcrowder]

I've never once even had it mentioned when I ask for help before the defense asks me to. Honest - not a single time.

[shipwreck]

Dakota, that's what I like to do also but it seems like if I am sure of my call but the catcher wants me to ask my partner and I am hoping that my partner doesn't change my ruling, that if I don't go to my partner it looks like I am trying to be bigger than the game. That is the only reason I did that "secret code" thing. Dave