Appeals-are they allowed by mgr/coach ?

chuck chopper · #1 (**permalink**) Mon Mar 06, 2006, 07:17am

Definitions would have you believe so, however within the rule book the appeals must come from the players. Is this a technical quirk.

Antonella · #2 (**permalink**) Mon Mar 06, 2006, 07:46am

Don't know what a 'quirk' is... By the way the Rulebook clearly says appeals can be made by players, managers and coaches.

This is so on ISF Rulebook:
Rule 1 - Sec. 2. APPEAL PLAY.
A live or dead ball appeal play is a play upon which an umpire cannot make a decision until requested by a
manager, coach or player of the defensive team.
EXCEPTION: An offensive manager, coach, or player may appeal for illegal defensive team substitution
violations.

Ciao!

Dakota · #3 (**permalink**) Mon Mar 06, 2006, 12:19pm

Quote:

Originally posted by chuck chopper
Definitions would have you believe so, however within the rule book the appeals must come from the players. Is this a technical quirk.

Speaking ASA, the definition is correct to say "yes", so is the rule book where it says "no."

The definition covers ALL appeals.

There ARE appeals that coaches may make (BOO).

There ARE appeals that coaches may NOT make (missed base).

Clear?

chuck chopper · #4 (**permalink**) Mon Mar 06, 2006, 12:27pm

I will have to study the ASA book a bit more to see just which situations can & can't be made by Mgr/coach. We were discussing and reading about missed bases and the wrong use of the white part of the double 1st base. Did not appear a coach could, but definitions allowed it. The class thought it to be a conflict in the definition

mcrowder · #5 (**permalink**) Mon Mar 06, 2006, 02:58pm

The definition says that certain inquiries by certain people, including coaches, players, etc, are APPEALS. It doesn't intimate that all appeals are legal coming from all of those parties.

Stat-Man · #6 (**permalink**) Mon Mar 06, 2006, 11:15pm

I believe that last year, NFHS changed the rules to allow a head coach to make a dead ball appeal.