Ball on the batter?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally posted by tcannizzo


Doncha just love these casebook examples that like never happen? There are many more relevant and frequent situations.

Change F2 to F7 and tell me the call.

Come on, Tony, talk about plays that never happen!

When was the last time you saw F7 receive a pitch?

Apples and oranges.

[MNBlue]

I would agree that the rule book is black/white, but effective officials have learned that there is a gray are for applying the rules to the game. Knowing how to prudently use the gray zone to administer the rules is what separates the good officials from the best officials.

Gray Zone = Survival

[bkbjones]

Originally posted by whiskers_ump
[B]

John,

Think that greymule meant that it is the intent and interpretation of the
rule, rather than rules being "less equal".

In you reference 7-2-c-3, it does not say batter is out if count is less than
3 strikes and enters the dugout. It does say the umpire may warn the player and may
if repeated offense occurs, call a strike. This was not stated in the originial
post. However, if in your game you wish to call someone out on two strikes, then
do so. Personally, I am bringing the batter back to complete his/her turn at
the plate.

I just threw 7-2-c-3 out there for the heck of it...didn't even think about what it was...and frankly, I'd do the very same thing: bring the batter back, complete your turn at the plate.

[SRW]

Originally posted by azbigdawg
LIke I said SRW..you wouldnt agree..your first comments told me that......its overofficiating.....say what you what about "umpires like me".....and Ill say what I want about "umpires like you"...gawd.....

Is calling Rule 5-7-B (4th defensive conference, pull your pitcher, coach) being overofficious? How does calling one rule differ from another?

[azbigdawg]

SRW..if you havent learned that one..there is nothing that I can tell you to change your mind

[tcannizzo]

Originally posted by IRISHMAFIA

Come on, Tony, talk about plays that never happen!

When was the last time you saw F7 receive a pitch?

Apples and oranges.

LOL Mike, but F2 didn't recieve a pitch. F2 was retrieving a foul ball.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally posted by tcannizzo


LOL Mike, but F2 didn't recieve a pitch. F2 was retrieving a foul ball.

That is true, but it is the premise of the rule, isn't it?

[tcannizzo]

Originally posted by IRISHMAFIA

That is true, but it is the premise of the rule, isn't it?

I agree. Based on the premise of the rule, I think it is ludicrous that if F2 was retrieving a foul ball and throws it to any other player than F1 that a ball is awarded. Sure, the normal job of F2 is to receive a pitch, but the case book has gone into the weeds on this one.