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Wed Jun 01, 2005, 06:35am
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ASA rules high school softball...
when the infield fly is in effect, as soon as it is called can the runners run? There seems to be a disagreement on this in that on e belief is that after the infield fly is ruled, if the ball is then caught, the runner can be doubled up if they aren't on the base. The other opinion is that once the infield fly is called, it is assumed a catch has been made and the runners can advance (as soon as the call of infield fly is made, they don't have to wait until the ball is actually caught or not) with liability of being put out. Is it true that if a runner leaves second as soon as the infield fly is called they can be called out for leaving the base before the "catch"? 
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Wed Jun 01, 2005, 07:20am
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On a infield fly, the batter is out. Everything else remains the same. The runners are liable to be put out if not on base. They also need to tag up AFTER the catch if they want to advance on a tag up. Dave
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Wed Jun 01, 2005, 07:28am
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Add --- the runners are liable to be put out if not on base, and the ball is CAUGHT. If the ball is not caught, no runner need tag up.
Ship's 1st 2 sentences say it all. There is nothing different between an IFF and any other pop up with the sole exception of the batter being out whether the ball is caught or not.
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Wed Jun 01, 2005, 08:23am
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The ball doesn't have to be CAUGHT for them to be liable to be put out. The fielder could just let the ball fall to the ground and tag them if they were off the base. Dave
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Wed Jun 01, 2005, 08:34am
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has been caught, you call it when ball reaches its apex and all other aspects of the IFR are met.
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Wed Jun 01, 2005, 08:42am
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As the others stated the IFF does not remove any tag up responsibilities. It does remove any force outs, as any time the B-R is out prior to reaching 1st base. So with no force outs runners can advance and must be tagged to be called out while advancing. As said before on a caught ball they must tag up after the ball is touched. Small difference but all other posts mention being free to run after the ball is caught, it is actually after it is first touched by a defender!
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Wed Jun 01, 2005, 08:54am
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Ship - I see now what you were saying. I had read your comment to be referring to an appeal for leaving early, when in fact you typed nothing of the sort. My bad.
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Wed Jun 01, 2005, 11:28am
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Also, this rule is one that is consistent across all rule books, unless a local league has modified something. But I wonder why and where they are using ASA rules for high school?
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Officiating takes more than OJT. It's not our jobs to invent rulings to fit our personal idea of what should and should not be.
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Wed Jun 01, 2005, 12:28pm
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Easy to remember....
The easiest way to remember the IFR:
It is the same as a regular fly ball EXCEPT the batter is automatically out and the force is off. All other rules that apply to a regular fly ball are in effect.
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Wed Jun 01, 2005, 02:53pm
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Wed Jun 01, 2005, 03:58pm
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I think NY is one of the states, but heck I am from Texas.
What do I know....OK Mike, shoooooot
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Thu Jun 02, 2005, 06:35am
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The bat issue in softball is as much about liability, insurance and litigation as it is about competition, inflated egos and softball.
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Thu Jun 02, 2005, 01:53pm
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Thu Jun 02, 2005, 02:09pm
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Probably right Bob. I shot two squirrels this morning. They were destroying my corn
and green beans. [Edited by whiskers_ump on Jun 2nd, 2005 at 03:14 PM]
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