ASA rules high school softball...

when the infield fly is in effect, as soon as it is called can the runners run? There seems to be a disagreement on this in that on e belief is that after the infield fly is ruled, if the ball is then caught, the runner can be doubled up if they aren't on the base. The other opinion is that once the infield fly is called, it is assumed a catch has been made and the runners can advance (as soon as the call of infield fly is made, they don't have to wait until the ball is actually caught or not) with liability of being put out. Is it true that if a runner leaves second as soon as the infield fly is called they can be called out for leaving the base before the "catch"?

On a infield fly, the batter is out. Everything else remains the same. The runners are liable to be put out if not on base. They also need to tag up AFTER the catch if they want to advance on a tag up. Dave

Add --- the runners are liable to be put out if not on base, and the ball is CAUGHT. If the ball is not caught, no runner need tag up.

Ship's 1st 2 sentences say it all. There is nothing different between an IFF and any other pop up with the sole exception of the batter being out whether the ball is caught or not.

The ball doesn't have to be CAUGHT for them to be liable to be put out. The fielder could just let the ball fall to the ground and tag them if they were off the base. Dave

Never heard this before. Never assume anything. You are not calling IFR because the ball
has been caught, you call it when ball reaches its apex and all other aspects of the IFR
are met.

As the others stated the IFF does not remove any tag up responsibilities. It does remove any force outs, as any time the B-R is out prior to reaching 1st base. So with no force outs runners can advance and must be tagged to be called out while advancing. As said before on a caught ball they must tag up after the ball is touched. Small difference but all other posts mention being free to run after the ball is caught, it is actually after it is first touched by a defender!

Ship - I see now what you were saying. I had read your comment to be referring to an appeal for leaving early, when in fact you typed nothing of the sort. My bad.

Also, this rule is one that is consistent across all rule books, unless a local league has modified something. But I wonder why and where they are using ASA rules for high school?

Easy to remember....
 

The easiest way to remember the IFR:

It is the same as a regular fly ball EXCEPT the batter is automatically out and the force is off. All other rules that apply to a regular fly ball are in effect.

It might be a state that doesn't use FED rules. There are some in football, and possibly in softball.

Bob

I think NY is one of the states, but heck I am from Texas.
What do I know....OK Mike, shoooooot

Glen is correct, NY uses ASA for high school, not Fed.

Shoot what? I couldn't possibly add anything to that comment.

Texans shoot at everything.

Bob

Probably right Bob. I shot two squirrels this morning. They were destroying my corn
and green beans.



[Edited by whiskers_ump on Jun 2nd, 2005 at 03:14 PM]