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question for Mike Rowe or other authorities.... Im not a softball ump (obviously), but as I watch closely on TV (picking up thoses umping tips, yes!) all the umps seem to have the EXACT same mechanics (strike, out, etc). If I didnt know better, Id say the EXACT same person was PU every single game! Are they instructed to match their mechanics for purposes of the tournament, or are SB umps always like this? Just wondering...
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Sun May 30, 2004, 05:25pm
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there are specific mechanics associated with the NCAA. Uniformity is essential!! All umpires work with the same mechanics as closely as possible. Did you notice that all the umps even look alike...their uniforms are exact....no individualism there. One of the edicts is not to stand out or be different than your fellow umps.
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Sun May 30, 2004, 07:52pm
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While I was watching the umpires as much as the game, I thought they did a good job. In the UCLA-Stanford game, I thought the PU made several good calls at home. Now, that I've brought it up, when Cal State runner was called safe at home, then out, did they ever explain why she was out? They kept talking about the 3BU having a better angle on the ball. How about running out of the baseline to avoid a tag? That was my 1st impression, and I still believe that would have been a good call. Since I've now been blocked off the game,so other programs can air, I can't tell what's happening, so someone please let me know if they ever explained that.
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Mon May 31, 2004, 08:50am
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Hang on. I'm going to be a little self-serving here.
While the NCAA has a group of fine umpire associations out there which conduct some mechanic clinic, I would venture to say that not one of these umpires were trained exclusively by the NCAA. These umpires most likely got their start working and being trained at the local level. There are a few things that have become obvious that these umpires have been taught for this tournament. Some look good, some I think are suspect, but they are all doing the same thing which is the way it should be. Anal folks like myself will notice the differences with some umpires (i.e. third strike mechanic, overhand out, even the manner of their safe calls). I have noticed a few calls being made on the run, which is not a good thing. BTW, I also believe an out of the basepath call would have sufficed on that call. You may have also noticed that after the tag was made, the catcher continued to pursue the runner behind the plate as if she missed the original tag. This could have easily led to the umpire's original call.
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Mon May 31, 2004, 08:54am
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Thanks, Mike. Good points.
Most of my training - fundamentals & advanced has come through ASA. I've also gotten some excellent training through the NCAA, but they rightly assume that you understand the fundamentals, and their training is on top of that.
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Tue Jun 01, 2004, 12:59pm
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My wife even made a comment about the umpires making calls while moving. And she doesn't even watch the sport. Specifically, on a double and on a stolen base, the 2nd base umpire was still moving when the play ended, moved some more, and then made the call. I thought it was very poor considering there are 4 of them out there. I can get myself set even in a 1-umpire game.
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Tue Jun 01, 2004, 02:23pm
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Tue Jun 01, 2004, 02:51pm
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In the case noted, I believe the umpire was coming from the B position for the call.
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