Batters box

[bbman]

Sit:
Batter swings, hits ball about 5” in front of batters box (ball in fair territory). Batter starts running and makes contact with ball with one foot, but other foot is still in batters box.
Out or dead ball foul?

[Tru_in_Blu]

Originally Posted by Cecil4

Did the "contact foot" touch the ground outside the box?

Does it matter?

A lot of the batter's box is in fair territory.

Did the batter come in contact with a fair batted ball?

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

Does it matter?

A lot of the batter's box is in fair territory.

Did the batter come in contact with a fair batted ball?

In NCAA at least, if the batter is in the box when hit it's a foul ball.

[Tru_in_Blu]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

In NCAA at least, if the batter is in the box when hit it's a foul ball.

I think we always tend to give the benefit of the doubt to the batter and call a dead ball.

But in this case, the BR stepped on a fair batted ball. So does it matter which foot/feet were in or out of the BB?

[bbman]

My question is, does one foot in mean she's in the box, even though the other foot stepped on a fair ball completely out of the box?

[TexBlue]

The batter is considered to still be in the batter's box, if A foot is on the ground in the box, isn't she? That would make it a foul ball, even if the ball is in fair territory. It may be one of those had to be there situations as to whether you thought all the criteria was met.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by Cecil4

Sorry for the diversions, a BR is out when making contact with a fair batted ball.

Not if the batter is still in the box.

[Tru_in_Blu]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Not if the batter is still in the box.

Can you provide a reference?

[bbsbvb83]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

Can you provide a reference?

NFHS 2-25-1f

A foul ball is a batted ball that touches the batter or the bat in the batter's hand(s) a second time while the batter is within the batter's box.

[Tru_in_Blu]

I think we're talking about a fair ball, not a foul ball, that the BR contacts.

This is different than the batted ball that hits the ground and then bound up and hits the batter or her bat. Then we'd have a dead ball, foul.

Please provide the reference/exception where the BR contacts a fair batted ball and is not out.

[Cecil4]

Originally Posted by bbman

Sit:
Batter swings, hits ball about 5” in front of batters box (ball in fair territory). Batter starts running and makes contact with ball with one foot, but other foot is still in batters box.
Out or dead ball foul?

Getting back to the OP and my original question, per NFHS.
The definition of "batters box" is where the batter is "positioned when batting".
If a step/foot lands outside the box, the batter now BR can not bat from there, so is out of the box.

So, if the "contact foot" touches the ground outside the box, it's an out. 8-2-7.
If both are still touching the box or one in the air after last touch in the box, foul ball, as in 2-25-1.f
Outside the box requires a foot completely outside, as in 7-4-8

[Tru_in_Blu]

Why do folks insist upon answering questions that were not asked.

Deal with the OP.

[Cecil4]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

Why do folks insist upon answering questions that were not asked.

Deal with the OP.

"if the "contact foot" touches the ground outside the box, it's an out. 8-2-7"


p.s. I thought it needed the support and I'm usually in teaching mode.

[Duke]

Dead Ball - Out