The Official Forum

The Official Forum (https://forum.officiating.com/)
-   Softball (https://forum.officiating.com/softball/)
-   -   Batters box (https://forum.officiating.com/softball/105728-batters-box.html)

bbman Thu May 05, 2022 10:27am

Batters box
 
Sit:
Batter swings, hits ball about 5” in front of batters box (ball in fair territory). Batter starts running and makes contact with ball with one foot, but other foot is still in batters box.
Out or dead ball foul?

Tru_in_Blu Thu May 05, 2022 11:20am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cecil4 (Post 1048119)
Did the "contact foot" touch the ground outside the box?

Does it matter?

A lot of the batter's box is in fair territory.

Did the batter come in contact with a fair batted ball?

Rich Ives Thu May 05, 2022 04:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu (Post 1048122)
Does it matter?

A lot of the batter's box is in fair territory.

Did the batter come in contact with a fair batted ball?

In NCAA at least, if the batter is in the box when hit it's a foul ball.

Tru_in_Blu Thu May 05, 2022 04:34pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 1048132)
In NCAA at least, if the batter is in the box when hit it's a foul ball.

I think we always tend to give the benefit of the doubt to the batter and call a dead ball.

But in this case, the BR stepped on a fair batted ball. So does it matter which foot/feet were in or out of the BB?

bbman Thu May 05, 2022 08:11pm

My question is, does one foot in mean she's in the box, even though the other foot stepped on a fair ball completely out of the box?

TexBlue Fri May 13, 2022 09:08am

The batter is considered to still be in the batter's box, if A foot is on the ground in the box, isn't she? That would make it a foul ball, even if the ball is in fair territory. It may be one of those had to be there situations as to whether you thought all the criteria was met.

Rich Ives Fri May 13, 2022 09:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cecil4 (Post 1048138)
Sorry for the diversions, a BR is out when making contact with a fair batted ball.

Not if the batter is still in the box.

Tru_in_Blu Fri May 13, 2022 04:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 1048182)
Not if the batter is still in the box.

Can you provide a reference?

bbsbvb83 Fri May 13, 2022 08:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu (Post 1048184)
Can you provide a reference?

NFHS 2-25-1f

A foul ball is a batted ball that touches the batter or the bat in the batter's hand(s) a second time while the batter is within the batter's box.

Tru_in_Blu Sat May 14, 2022 06:50am

I think we're talking about a fair ball, not a foul ball, that the BR contacts.

This is different than the batted ball that hits the ground and then bound up and hits the batter or her bat. Then we'd have a dead ball, foul.

Please provide the reference/exception where the BR contacts a fair batted ball and is not out.

Cecil4 Sat May 14, 2022 02:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbman (Post 1048118)
Sit:
Batter swings, hits ball about 5” in front of batters box (ball in fair territory). Batter starts running and makes contact with ball with one foot, but other foot is still in batters box.
Out or dead ball foul?

Getting back to the OP and my original question, per NFHS.
The definition of "batters box" is where the batter is "positioned when batting".
If a step/foot lands outside the box, the batter now BR can not bat from there, so is out of the box.

So, if the "contact foot" touches the ground outside the box, it's an out. 8-2-7.
If both are still touching the box or one in the air after last touch in the box, foul ball, as in 2-25-1.f
Outside the box requires a foot completely outside, as in 7-4-8

Tru_in_Blu Sun May 15, 2022 06:31am

Why do folks insist upon answering questions that were not asked.

Deal with the OP.

Cecil4 Sun May 15, 2022 09:20am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu (Post 1048193)
Why do folks insist upon answering questions that were not asked.

Deal with the OP.

"if the "contact foot" touches the ground outside the box, it's an out. 8-2-7"


p.s. I thought it needed the support and I'm usually in teaching mode.

Duke Mon May 16, 2022 06:18am

Dead Ball - Out


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:46pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1