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Old Wed Sep 11, 2019, 12:53pm
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RH batter, D3K, batter likely not going to try for 1B, but reflexively steps backward (out of the BB) as F2 tries to put the tag on her. R1 on 2B breaking for 3B.

Does this equate to a typical runner on their way to 1B who steps back (dead ball, runners return)?
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Old Wed Sep 11, 2019, 05:37pm
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That rule only applies when a play attempt is being made on the batter runner and they step back to delay or prevent a tag.
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Old Wed Sep 11, 2019, 07:33pm
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That rule only applies when a play attempt is being made on the batter runner and they step back to delay or prevent a tag.
as F2 tries to put the tag on her ?????
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Old Thu Sep 12, 2019, 03:24pm
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as F2 tries to put the tag on her ?????
B-R didn't step toward the plate so:

what direction is "stepping back" - toward home plate or toward the batter's back (to the side of the baseline in this play)?
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Old Thu Sep 12, 2019, 03:54pm
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B-R didn't step toward the plate so:

what direction is "stepping back" - toward home plate or toward the batter's back (to the side of the baseline in this play)?
Yes, the USA and NFHS rules say toward home plate; but I think the intent and any interpretation we would get would call this INT.

Also, what about the interfering with an U3K rule?
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Old Thu Sep 12, 2019, 04:01pm
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Yes, the USA and NFHS rules say toward home plate; but I think the intent and any interpretation we would get would call this INT.

Also, what about the interfering with an U3K rule?
I could see an out of basepath out, but not INT.
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Old Fri Sep 13, 2019, 08:58am
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A batter could step back (1 step) away from F2, and not be considered out of the basepath, but that 1 step back from a B/R further up the line would be enough for an INT call.

Guess my question should really be, in the OP is she considered a B/R?

For clarity, we are talking about the 3B-side batter's box.
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Old Fri Sep 13, 2019, 09:45am
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Guess my question should really be, in the OP is she considered a B/R?
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U3K is like any other eligible to run result, the batter becomes a BR (unless 1st occupied with < 2 outs)
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Old Fri Sep 13, 2019, 10:22am
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I'd have to see it, but if it was obvious the the BR's action was to avoid the tag, I believe the rule applies. Dead ball, BR out
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Old Fri Sep 13, 2019, 12:36pm
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More of a reflex reaction to the tag attempt (and not turning away to return to the 3B dugout). My concern was more about returning the runner to 2B.
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Old Fri Sep 13, 2019, 03:37pm
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A batter becomes a batter-runner on a DU3K.

A batter-runner is out when she steps toward home plate to avoid a tag when running to 1B.

Ergo, a BR is out for INT when the BR increases his or her distance from 1B in an attempt to avoid or delay a tag. Intent not required.

The BR is out, dead ball + runners return to TOI, by an INT ruling in your scenario......IF I am playing Rulebook Lawyer....which is one of my favorite games.

That said, I think common sense says to pass on this one, and keep the ball live....but I don't think it would survive a protest.

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