Craziest Game Ending Play

[chapmaja]

There was something else I didn't realize at first with this play. That was nearly interference (unintentional, but still interference) by R1 on this play. That ball, after the deflection, doesn't miss hitting R1 by much. Ironically Kalamazoo Christian would have been better off had she interfered.

IIRC the rule correctly, the runner would be out for interference, and the batter would be out because this was a "fly ball" that could be caught by F6. R2 would have been put back on first base. This would have given them one last chance to come back instead of having the game end on the triple play.

[Crabby_Bob]

Originally Posted by chapmaja

there was something else i didn't realize at first with this play. That was nearly interference (unintentional, but still interference) by r1 on this play. That ball, after the deflection, doesn't miss hitting r1 by much. Ironically kalamazoo christian would have been better off had she interfered.

Iirc the rule correctly, the runner would be out for interference, and the batter would be out because this was a "fly ball" that could be caught by f6. R2 would have been put back on first base. This would have given them one last chance to come back instead of having the game end on the triple play.

[You should have a look at ] NFHS 8-8-6

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by chapmaja

There was something else I didn't realize at first with this play. That was nearly interference (unintentional, but still interference) by R1 on this play. That ball, after the deflection, doesn't miss hitting R1 by much. Ironically Kalamazoo Christian would have been better off had she interfered.

IIRC the rule correctly, the runner would be out for interference, and the batter would be out because this was a "fly ball" that could be caught by F6. R2 would have been put back on first base. This would have given them one last chance to come back instead of having the game end on the triple play.

That's not the NFHS rule, that's the USA/NCAA rule. On runner interference, either a ground ball or fly ball, the runner is out and BR is placed on first. Personally, I think this is a rule that NFHS needs to change to align with USA/NCAA.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by Big Slick

That's not the NFHS rule, that's the USA/NCAA rule. On runner interference, either a ground ball or fly ball, the runner is out and BR is placed on first. Personally, I think this is a rule that NFHS needs to change to align with USA/NCAA.

You're out in softball if hit by a deflected batted ball? Boo hissssss.

[Tru_in_Blu]

I'm getting confused now. (Which might be easier for me than some...)

Here's the USA and NFHS rules:

USA 8.8 THE RUNNER IS NOT OUT

F. When a runner is hit by a fair batted ball after it touches or is touched by any fielder including the pitcher, and the runner could not avoid contact with the ball.

NFHS 8.8 RUNNER IS NOT OUT

ART 6… A runner is hit with a fair batted ball after it touches, or is touched by, any fielder, including the pitcher, and the runner could not avoid contact with the ball.

Am I misreading something that was posted? Have we moved from deflected balls to something other?

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

You're out in softball if hit by a deflected batted ball? Boo hissssss.

No, not what I said. In USA/NCAA softball, if you interfere with a fly ball over fair territory, both the runner and batter are out (in USA, also foul territory).

In NFHS, interference with a fly ball over fair territory is runner out, BR placed on first. Over foul territory is out, foul/strike on the batter.

In this case, the runner could interfere with F6 catching the ball, as it would extend to the "initial play" but getting hit with the ball is nothing.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by Big Slick

No, not what I said. In USA/NCAA softball, if you interfere with a fly ball over fair territory, both the runner and batter are out (in USA, also foul territory).

In NFHS, interference with a fly ball over fair territory is runner out, BR placed on first. Over foul territory is out, foul/strike on the batter.

In this case, the runner could interfere with F6 catching the ball, as it would extend to the "initial play" but getting hit with the ball is nothing.

The post said she was almost hit by the ball and if so she would have been out. Nothing about interfering with the fielder.

[Tru_in_Blu]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

The post said she was almost hit by the ball and if so she would have been out. Nothing about interfering with the fielder.

So someone is mistaken, right?

NFHS 8.8 RUNNER IS NOT OUT

ART 6… A runner is hit with a fair batted ball after it touches, or is touched by, any fielder, including the pitcher, and the runner could not avoid contact with the ball.

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

So someone is mistaken, right?

NFHS 8.8 RUNNER IS NOT OUT

ART 6… A runner is hit with a fair batted ball after it touches, or is touched by, any fielder, including the pitcher, and the runner could not avoid contact with the ball.

I was referring to this post:

Originally Posted by chapmaja

There was something else I didn't realize at first with this play. That was nearly interference (unintentional, but still interference) by R1 on this play. That ball, after the deflection, doesn't miss hitting R1 by much. Ironically Kalamazoo Christian would have been better off had she interfered.

IIRC the rule correctly, the runner would be out for interference, and the batter would be out because this was a "fly ball" that could be caught by F6. R2 would have been put back on first base. This would have given them one last chance to come back instead of having the game end on the triple play.

Correcting the second paragraph, effect for runner interference with a fly ball, as if she were to run into F6 catching the ball. Being hit with a deflected ball is not interference.