Humorous what's the count exchange

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by chapmaja

If it is not called a strike it can't be a strike.

I completely understand that it should have been 0-1, but the RULE doesn't allow them to simply go back and say it was a swing and miss on the first pitch, so now it should be 0-2. The proper procedure was followed after the second pitch even if it did screw the defensive team.

You CAN NOT go back and change the call on the first pitch after the second pitch. This was what the Texas coach was arguing and why the count had to be 1-1. That is also why the U2 can be seen telling the Houston coach "That's the rule."

They got everything correct after missing the swing and miss on the first pitch. You guys may not agree, but the rule book is pretty clear about that.

Please cite the rules you are referencing.

[teebob21]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Please cite the rules you are referencing.

NCAA 15.9.3: The umpires may rectify any situation in which the reversal of an umpire’s decision or a delayed call by an umpire on a live ball places a batter, batter-runner, a base runner or the defensive team in jeopardy or prevents her/them from making the appropriate play. This correction is not possible after one legal or illegal pitch has been thrown or after the pitcher and all infielders have clearly vacated their normal fielding positions and have left fair territory.

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by teebob21

NCAA 15.9.3: The umpires may rectify any situation in which the reversal of an umpire’s decision or a delayed call by an umpire on a live ball places a batter, batter-runner, a base runner or the defensive team in jeopardy or prevents her/them from making the appropriate play. This correction is not possible after one legal or illegal pitch has been thrown or after the pitcher and all infielders have clearly vacated their normal fielding positions and have left fair territory.

While this doesn't directly address a "swing v. no swing" situation, there is a "can fix the count" in the ruling and "window of opportunity" is the batter to complete the at-bat. (emphasis in mine):

A.R. 15-11. The batter has a 3-1 count and although the next pitch is called a ball, no one acknowledges the base on balls. The next pitch is a foul ball.
(1) Before the seventh pitch, the offensive coach asks the plate umpire for the count and it is confirmed to be 4-2. Can the umpire correct the count
and award the batter first base even though a pitch has been thrown after
the mistake?
(2) Following the foul ball, the seventh pitch is a called a strike for strike
three. The offensive coach immediately requests the plate umpire award
the batter the base on balls she had previously earned, thus negating the
strike out.
(3) On the next pitch, the batter hits an out-of-the-park home run and the
defensive coach immediately requests the plate umpire award the batter
the base on balls she had previously earned, thus negating the home run?

RULING: (1) Yes, as long as the batter has not completed her turn at
bat, the umpire may correct the count. In this case, the batter would
be awarded first base because the rules say when a batter receives a
fourth ball, she is awarded first base without liability to be put out.
Similarly, if a batter leaves the batter’s box headed for the dugout
thinking she struck out (but has not) or heads to first base thinking
she walked (but has not), the umpire shall direct her back to the
batter’s box to complete her turn at-bat. In both (2) and (3), the
window of opportunity to correct the count no longer exists because
the batter completed her turn at-bat. The result of the play remains
the action from the last delivered pitch - strikeout in the first case and
home run in the second. Note: Rules 15.2.15 and 15.9.3 do not apply
as this is not a case of a delayed call or a reversed decision putting a
player in undue jeopardy.
(Rule 15.3.5)

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by teebob21

NCAA 15.9.3: The umpires may rectify any situation in which the reversal of an umpire’s decision or a delayed call by an umpire on a live ball places a batter, batter-runner, a base runner or the defensive team in jeopardy or prevents her/them from making the appropriate play. This correction is not possible after one legal or illegal pitch has been thrown or after the pitcher and all infielders have clearly vacated their normal fielding positions and have left fair territory.

What about "If it is not called a strike it can't be a strike. "?