What is the rule?

[ilyazhito]

What's the difference, for players, anyway? AFAIK, players can't really be removed from the premises,because they are (usually) minors and need to be under supervision, so a dugout restriction is practically synonymous with an ejection for a player (except if suspensions are involved, maybe).

[Insane Blue]

Nothing can be done about careless throwing unless it interferes with the play then we have an out.

7-4-14 The batter throws her bat and interferes with a defensive player
attempting a play.

NOTE: lf the bat breaks and a portion is hit by the ball or hits a runner or fielder, no infraction
has occurred.

Rule 3-6-16 Team personnel shall not deliberately throw bats, helmets or any
other piece of equipment.

[markrischard]

Originally Posted by Insane Blue

Nothing can be done about careless throwing unless it interferes with the play then we have an out.

7-4-14 The batter throws her bat and interferes with a defensive player
attempting a play.

NOTE: lf the bat breaks and a portion is hit by the ball or hits a runner or fielder, no infraction
has occurred.

Rule 3-6-16 Team personnel shall not deliberately throw bats, helmets or any
other piece of equipment.

Yes, there is something that can be done about it.
3-6-3 covers it.

ART. 3 . . . A team member shall not carelessly throw a bat.

PENALTY: (Arts. 2 through 10) The umpire shall issue a team warning to the coach of the team involved and the next offender on that team shall be restricted to the dugout/bench for the remainder of the game.

[Insane Blue]

Originally Posted by markrischard

Yes, there is something that can be done about it.
3-6-3 covers it.

ART. 3 . . . A team member shall not carelessly throw a bat.

PENALTY: (Arts. 2 through 10) The umpire shall issue a team warning to the coach of the team involved and the next offender on that team shall be restricted to the dugout/bench for the remainder of the game.

Okay there is definitely something that can be done about it

[Andy]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

What's the difference, for players, anyway? AFAIK, players can't really be removed from the premises,because they are (usually) minors and need to be under supervision, so a dugout restriction is practically synonymous with an ejection for a player (except if suspensions are involved, maybe).

I think it is more semantics and definitions for the most part.

Ejections carry the penalty of "out of sight, out of sound" which means the ejected person leaves.

Since HS players are minors and require supervision we don't impose the penalty of "ejection" on a player. A player is "restricted to the dugout". An adult (coach or other bench personnel) can be ejected. NFHS also allows us the intermediary penalty of a restriction to the dugout for the adult personnel.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Andy

I think it is more semantics and definitions for the most part.

Ejections carry the penalty of "out of sight, out of sound" which means the ejected person leaves.

Since HS players are minors and require supervision we don't impose the penalty of "ejection" on a player. A player is "restricted to the dugout". An adult (coach or other bench personnel) can be ejected. NFHS also allows us the intermediary penalty of a restriction to the dugout for the adult personnel.

Never had to deal with it, but didn't care that the players were a minor. Some of those little shits can act up to the point they need to go. And if that is the case, send them. It ISN'T the umpire's responsibility to babysit them, it is the coach's LEGAL responsibility.

[BretMan]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

What's the difference, for players, anyway? AFAIK, players can't really be removed from the premises,because they are (usually) minors and need to be under supervision, so a dugout restriction is practically synonymous with an ejection for a player (except if suspensions are involved, maybe).

In my state, a player ejection carries an automatic suspension from the next two games. A bench restriction is just that and there's no further penalty involved.

[chapmaja]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

What's the difference, for players, anyway? AFAIK, players can't really be removed from the premises,because they are (usually) minors and need to be under supervision, so a dugout restriction is practically synonymous with an ejection for a player (except if suspensions are involved, maybe).

In Michigan, it is the next day of competition. A player restricted to the dugout can't play the rest of the game (but could play subsequent games that day).

A player ejected from the game is done for the day of competition and the NEXT day of competition per MHSAA rules. Same thing for a coach restricted or ejected.

[Crabby_Bob]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

What's the difference, for players, anyway? AFAIK, players can't really be removed from the premises,because they are (usually) minors and need to be under supervision, so a dugout restriction is practically synonymous with an ejection for a player (except if suspensions are involved, maybe).

Not to pile on here, but suspensions are key. For example,

Any player who is ejected for any reason shall be disqualified from participating in the remainder of the game and will be ineligible for the team’s
next contest and may not attend. A second ejection will constitute a two contest suspension and a third ejection will cause suspension for the
remainder of the season. A player who was ejected from the previous contest, who knowingly, or unknowingly, participates in or is in attendance at
the next contest, will result in the forfeiture of that contest.