D3k, ncaa

[jmkupka]

asked this one before, don't think I got a resolution...

D3K, throw coming from the backstop to 1B.

F3 set up well foul to take the throw (right foot on the bag).

Is BR permitted to run outside the running lane (in fair territory) to avoid collision, and still be protected from INT, as is the rule in double-base rulesets?

[Crabby_Bob]

I can find no exceptions other than in 12.5.5 and 12.17.1.5.2

12.5.5 When either of her feet is completely outside the runner’s lane, in contact
with the ground, and, in the judgment of the umpire, she interferes with the
fielder taking the throw at first base. Exceptions: She may run outside the
runner’s lane: (1) if she has not yet reached the start of the runner’s lane; (2)
to avoid a fielder attempting to field a batted ball; or (3) if she leaves the lane
on her last stride in order to touch first base.

[jmkupka]

Thanks Bob,

As far as the double-base rulesets, I forget if the exception is black and white in the rules, or is in the rule-supplement section, or is just an official interpretation.

[Tru_in_Blu]

Originally Posted by jmkupka

Thanks Bob,

As far as the double-base rulesets, I forget if the exception is black and white in the rules, or is in the rule-supplement section, or is just an official interpretation.

USA is B&W: 8.2.N.4

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

USA is B&W: 8.2.N.4

Actually, the better USA rule to use here is 8.2.E. It says:

When the defensive player uses the foul portion of the double base, the batter-runner can run in fair territory when the throw is coming from the foul side of first base, and if hit by the thrown ball, it is not interference.

NFHS does not have a similar rule. But it does have this case play:

8.2.6 SITUATION C:

With no outs and no runners on base, B1’s third strike is dropped and the ball rolls into foul territory. F3 steps on first base to receive the throw from F2 while B1 runs in fair territory to the base. F2’s throw is errant and draws F3 back in fair territory. This causes B1 to slow down. The errant throw then hits B1 in the back.

RULING: Obstruction on F3.

COMMENT: The ruling is the same for a double or single first base. (8-2-6; 8-4-3b)

I haven't seen anything similar in NCAA books.

[Crabby_Bob]

I think NFHS does have a rule similar to ASA/USA:

8-10-2 The offense or defense may use either the white or colored portion:
a. On any force out attempt from the foul side of first base.
b. On an errant throw pulling the defense off the base into foul ground.
c. When the defensive player uses the colored portion of the double base, the batter-runner can run in fair territory when the throw is coming from the foul side of first base, and if hit by the thrown ball, it is not interference. If intentional interference is ruled, the runner is out.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by Crabby_Bob

I think NFHS does have a rule similar to ASA/USA:

8-10-2 The offense or defense may use either the white or colored portion:
a. On any force out attempt from the foul side of first base.
b. On an errant throw pulling the defense off the base into foul ground.
c. When the defensive player uses the colored portion of the double base, the batter-runner can run in fair territory when the throw is coming from the foul side of first base, and if hit by the thrown ball, it is not interference. If intentional interference is ruled, the runner is out.

Yeah, of course they would hide it in the Double-First Base rule, and not mention it in the runner's lane rule like USA Softball does. I stand corrected.
Good catch.