Players standing in the dugout openings

[Scooby]

Originally Posted by Scooby

Why go out of your way and make up rules and for some?

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Enforce them... Not 'for some'.

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[RKBUmp]

Andy, has been going on for years and has only been getting worse lately. As you know I personally ran into a partner who made a fit about the on deck circles having to be 45' from home plate and stopped the game several times to yell at players in the dugout openings and for being in the on deck circles he attempted to erase.

Another game I worked this year my partner on bases stopped play to tell the girls to get out of the dugout opening, only problem was both dugouts only had 3' tall fences and the players were all lined up along the fence cheering. What difference does it make if they were in the opening or not when the fence is only 3' tall?

Few years ago I was a spectator at a game and the plate umpire actually called no pitch after the ball had already been released by the pitcher to yell at a girl in the dugout opening. Now how the heck is he actually tracking the pitch if he was looking at the dugout to see a player standing there??????

[Andy]

Originally Posted by RKBUmp

Andy, has been going on for years and has only been getting worse lately. As you know I personally ran into a partner who made a fit about the on deck circles having to be 45' from home plate and stopped the game several times to yell at players in the dugout openings and for being in the on deck circles he attempted to erase.

Another game I worked this year my partner on bases stopped play to tell the girls to get out of the dugout opening, only problem was both dugouts only had 3' tall fences and the players were all lined up along the fence cheering. What difference does it make if they were in the opening or not when the fence is only 3' tall?

Few years ago I was a spectator at a game and the plate umpire actually called no pitch after the ball had already been released by the pitcher to yell at a girl in the dugout opening. Now how the heck is he actually tracking the pitch if he was looking at the dugout to see a player standing there??????

I know it's been going on for years here...you and I have discussed it....

I'm trying to figure out if it is more than just local....

[ASA/NYSSOBLUE]

The big issue around here lately has been the coach sitting on the bucket outside the dugout/bench area - to the point where we reminded of it SEVERAL times during our meetings.

Actually its about one PITA assistant coach, who has been a nightmare for about 10 years, starting at the middle school level.

[Mountaincoach]

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

The big issue around here lately has been the coach sitting on the bucket outside the dugout/bench area - to the point where we reminded of it SEVERAL times during our meetings.

Actually its about one PITA assistant coach, who has been a nightmare for about 10 years, starting at the middle school level.

I've been around a couple of these guys in the past 8 or 10 years. They're usually very "large" individuals. I always felt sorry for the bucket.

[Manny A]

Did I miss something in this discussion? Where is there a rule that prohibits players from standing at the dugout opening, completely inside the dugout out of live ball territory? It's not our job to ensure players are out of the potential line of fire. There are all sorts of dugout configurations that put players in harm's way; are we supposed to tell those players they need to leave the dugout and go behind it?

Geez, talk about getting involved in something that isn't our business. We don't force pitchers and infielders to wear face masks. We don't direct on-deck hitters to pay attention in the circle and not swing the bat to warm up. We don't advise base runners to stop sliding head first because it's more dangerous than feet first.

Don't get me wrong; I'm concerned about player safety. But those concerns are born out of enforcing the rules about safety. We don't insert ourselves to push agendas that aren't aligned with the rules. If the girls want to stand in the dugout opening, that's on them and their coaches.