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If the defense has access to the field for warm-up, yes unless there is cause to keep them of the field.
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There's no rule against it allowing them to pitch from the circle before a game ... but if both teams are there it's probably a good idea to keep both teams out of the infield unless you can ensure that both teams will have the infield for an equal amount of time before it's time to start the official warmups.
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Welcome to the forum, MT73! You will learn which wise cracks to ignore.
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I may have "cracked wise" regarding ASA (which no longer exists) and the mention of a mound (our sport does not have a mound... this sport is not just a watered down female version of baseball ... terminology matters)
But I did also answer his question.
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It is not.
But again... if you really want to understand this sport you should begin with a clean slate and not think of it in terms of how it differs from baseball. Making assumptions based on what you know of baseball will often be wrong. Different governing bodies entirely, with different priorities. Softball is MUCH faster than baseball, necessitating a very different approach by the rulesmakers.
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And I am also very much with you on "this sport is not just a watered down female version of baseball "
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^^ Any one who thinks it is should watch international men's FP. Good Lord is that fun to watch. The only similarity to baseball would be the fact that there are balls, bats, gloves, and four umpires on the field.
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I coached travel softball for many years and never forgot the words of wisdom that a former D1 player shared with me when I first took on a 4th grade CYO team,:
" Sofball is not baseball. We hit differently, we lead off differently, we run differently and our strategy is different" I took those words to heart an learned all that I could from those in the know. I coached most of those same girls from ages 9-18 and am proud to say that out of my core 9 players seven went on to play in college--including my daughter. But forgive me if I occasionally get a brain freeze on the rules. Last edited by MT 73; Fri Mar 31, 2017 at 12:16pm. |
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^^ Happens to the best of us.
This sport needs more good officials...doesn't matter whether they come from baseball, from former players, or from the coaching box. Next year is my 20th year, and I am 33 years old. I love the game and want to see it continue to grow at all levels, but in order to do so, we need people to work the games and commit to learning the rules and mechanics and strive to get better every game, every play, every pitch. Welcome aboard.
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I enforce this etiquette in baseball but it is rarely necessary. Do you have cites that enforce this other than PBUC/MLBUM.
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No. Those are the only sources where I have seen it.
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FWIW, unless it's very early, well before game time, I don't think I've ever seen a pitcher even try to go warm up from the actual circle. By the time I arrive on the field, there is nobody on the infield dirt other than the grounds crew doing the finishing touches. So it's really a non-issue.
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