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Old Mon Mar 20, 2017, 07:23pm
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Throw out the already bantered Utrip exception for this discussion...

Speaking Fed, I've always been under the assumption that it's immediate deadball for things like licking fingers with no wipe, grinding the ball into the dirt, taking a nail file out and using it on the ball, etc. When that act takes place, the pitch doesn't take place.

Then there's the other category, the everything is OK until but there's the double touch, leap, stepping outside of the 24", etc. where the rules state that we have delayed dead ball giving the batter an opportunity to hit the ball.

I think Fed is pretty clear about what's what and when it's applied.
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Old Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:26pm
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I think Dave has it right.

I'm trying to recall an IP that I called for a double touch that ended up with a pitch being delivered. I can't remember one.

When the IP is called, pitchers almost always stop their delivery. At that point, the call of a dead ball is appropriate.

IPs called with a pitch being made would more likely be a result of foot fouls. Those almost always result in a pitch being thrown. Sometimes, if called by the BU and the PU didn't hear the call, things can get a bit confusing. But just take the time and sort things out.
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