ASA - 1B Coach runs out on field during live ball to argue a call at 2B

[MD Longhorn]

I am 90% sure I would have ejected a coach immediately if I saw him charging the field during a live ball... but assuming I didn't...

Originally Posted by teebob21

The conversation:
Him, running: {unintelligible}
Me: [Giving a big, high one-handed stop sign while still watching the ball] NO, Coach! Wait until the ball's in the circle. It's live!

Just "NO!" with the stop sign is enough. You have a job to do. Three sentences with the coach is not that job.

Originally Posted by teebob21

Him, still coming: {rabble rabble grumble grumble}

Eject.

Originally Posted by teebob21

--Ball is possessed by F1...not quite into the circle, but no one's running. Close enough for me to pay attention to the coach as he's within a few feet of me. I see that neither partner has called Time.--
Me: Coach, you can't be out here. No one has called Time yet.
Him: I called time! (more words that I didn't really listen to)

Eject

Originally Posted by teebob21

Me: TIME! Coach, now the ball's in the circle. What can I do for you?
Him: {Bog-standard "How can you make that call?" coach complaint. I don't recall the actual words. He didn't think the fielder touched the bag before the runner.}
Me: No, sir, the out stands. The throw was high, as you said, but the fielder caught the ball and her left foot came down on the bag before the runner's left foot reached it. ( <-- I know for a fact that those were my actual words...this was the first time I've used such detail. Another umpire had talked about how specifying which foot was where can sometimes stop a coach in their tracks...provided the coach is willing to listen to what you have to say. This guy wasn't.)

If, for some reason, this coach is not already ejected... this conversation is WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY too long.

Originally Posted by teebob21

Him: You gotta go for help!

"Coach, I had the angle and the call. This conversation is over."

Originally Posted by teebob21

Me, pointing to my partners' positions as I talk: Coach, my first-base partner is behind the play, and our plate umpire is 85 feet away. I'm right here on top of it, and I could see all the elements: the ball, the glove, the fielder on the bag, and the runner's foot. She's out.

Again ... way way way too long.

Originally Posted by teebob21

Him: You're not going to go for help?
Me: No, sir.
Him: I can't believe you guys!

Eject.

Originally Posted by teebob21

Me: Sorry, sir.

This is you baiting him... don't do that.

Originally Posted by teebob21

Him, walking away: All you umpires have been rubbish all week!

Eject.

Originally Posted by teebob21

Me, giving another stop sign: PAT, KNOCK IT OFF!

Crap on a cracker... no umpire I've ever worked with would have given this guy all this rope and STILL given another warning... and the first name in a heated situation is almost always inappropriate.

Originally Posted by teebob21

Him: {hesitation and surprise that I know his first name} No....uh....YOU knock it off! {keeps walking away}

Seriously... you didn't eject here either... I have no words.

Originally Posted by teebob21

I posted this play for conversation here because the feedback I got after the game was a surprise to me. I thought I handled it well; kept the coach in the game and life went on. The feedback I got was that I looked animated and aggressive during the discussion (which is totally possible as I gave two stop signs and pointed while talking) and that I should have appeased him by going for help in order to defuse the situation (which I 100% disagree with as I had all the elements with 99.9%+ certainty).

Obviously ... I agree with those telling you you didn't handle it well. Sorry.