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Old Mon Aug 01, 2016, 10:42am
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Another new mechanic?

Watching PGF 18 championship this weekend, 3 man crew and when counter rotated it appeared much of the time U1 was positioned in C position off the left shoulder of the SS. Is this something PGF has started using?
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Old Mon Aug 01, 2016, 11:16am
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U1?


Assuming that U3 was on the third base line, there were two umpires between second and third? That doesn't make sense to me.....
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Old Mon Aug 01, 2016, 11:23am
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Yep, thought I was missing something the first couple of times but kept seeing an umpire in C when there shouldn't have been one.
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Old Mon Aug 01, 2016, 12:51pm
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My theory? U1 was unfamiliar with 3 umpire mechanics and was wingin' it.
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Old Mon Aug 01, 2016, 01:54pm
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My theory? U1 was unfamiliar with 3 umpire mechanics and was wingin' it.
If that is the case, got to wonder about PGF/whoever did the assigning of officials unfamiliar with 3 man mechanics on a nationally televised championship game.
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If that is the case, got to wonder about PGF/whoever did the assigning of officials unfamiliar with 3 man mechanics on a nationally televised championship game.
Yeah, but mere speculation on my part, since U1 is the usual position a 3-umpire rookie gets put it, and he was positioned where he was supposed to be if it was 2-umpire.
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My theory? U1 was unfamiliar with 3 umpire mechanics and was wingin' it.
Were the other 2 asleep?
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There is a basic disconnect/mistake with the opening post. Unless something has changed, PGF championship games use 4 umpires; something you cannot generally see clearly in typical TV coverage.

What you were seeing was U2 in position, not U3 rotated. Standard 4 man as taught by ISF (and what Smokey uses) has U2 in the typical 3 person rotated (line between 2nd and 3rd extended) only when there is a force at 2nd, or with bases empty and a righthanded batter up (opposite field of batter). With no force at 2nd and a lefthanded batter up, it is the mirror image on the shortstop side with the line between 1st and 2nd extended.
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