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Batting out of order
R1 on 2nd, R2 on 1st. Wrong batter hits a single. R1 scores, R2 on 2nd, BR on 1st. Before next pitch, it's discovered that BR is wrong.
7.2.D.2b EFFECT (a) The player who should have batted is out. (Got it!) 7.2.D.2b EFFECT (b) Any advance of runners and any run scored shall be nullified. All outs made stand. (If everything is nullified, what happens to R1, R2, and the wrong BR? Is the entire play cancelled, everyone goes back to their original base, the right batter is out, and the next batter bats?) |
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If memory serves me, Fed would not count the improper batters out(if she did indeed get an out). There's a casebook play but I don't have that book in front of me.
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All rule sets are now the same on this, all outs made stand except any outs made on the improper batter.
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That rule actually makes it an enticing proposition for the offense to purposely bat out of order because there is no real penalty for it other than just a single out. The defensive coach would be forced to choose between taking just the single out and correcting the batting order, or, not appealing and allowing the offense to reset the batting order. |
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I had a coach tell me this year that she will purposely bat out of order a few times a year. I'm not sure if she was joking, but she did seem like she was serious. Like anything else in NCAA, it will be changed when someone with a little stroke is disadvantaged. |
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IMO, ASA had it right and screwed it up. The BOO should, without question, carry a penalty.
In addition, if the defense retires anyone, including the wrong batter, those are outs earned and should not be negated to the advantage of the offending team. You know, for an organization who for more than a half a century was the leader in the game of softball worldwide, they sure have been doing a lot of following in the last decade or so.
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I agree, the defense earned every out they made on the field and then there was an additional penalty for the batting out of order. The NCAA rule is really no penalty at all, why not skip over your worst batter and try to reset the batting order. Worst case the it is just a single out which more than likely would have happened anyway since it was their worst batter they are attempting to skip over in the first place. |
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Sorry to resurrect an old thread
Clarification. ASA 10U
No outs Angie is on 3rd Betty is on 1st Claire is due up but Dianne bats instead. Dianne strikes out. Coach appeals BOO Claire is out Dianne is up. 1 out, correct? They don't get both outs correct? I had to protest a game tonight to get this straight, and I think we finally did. |
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You are correct, sir!
ASA changed their rule (2 years ago?) to negate the improper batter's at-bat, aligning themselves with other organizations. Prior to that, they would have enforced the out made by the improper batter. Not anymore! |
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Either you take the play, or you take the penalty.
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