NFHS Catch

[Rutsro]

A line drive is hit to the pitcher. The ball lodges in the pitcher's glove but the force of the line drive tears the glove from the pitchers's hand. The glove, with the ball still inside, lands on the ground.

Catch or not?


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[RKBUmp]

Did the pitcher control the ball with properly attached equipment before it hit the ground?

Your answer is no, it is not a catch.

[BlueDevilRef]

I would also say no given the description. She did not maintain control of ball

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Rutsro

A line drive is hit to the pitcher. The ball lodges in the pitcher's glove but the force of the line drive tears the glove from the pitchers's hand. The glove, with the ball still inside, lands on the ground.

Catch or not?


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Not

[Tru_in_Blu]

Or is it not yet?

Has the ball hit the ground? If not can the fielder retrieve the ball inside the glove by picking up the glove? Does that make it a catch yet or would she need to throw the ball to first base to retire the BR?

She did not throw her glove at the ball, so there is no penalty there.

Another related situation. Batter hits a popup near home plate - not very high. F2 searching for the ball removes her helmet and the ball falls into it. F2 did not move her helmet towards the ball, the ball just landed there. (Hey, if there are case studies that think a thrown ball can end up in the umpire's ball bag, this is just as ludicrous, er, possible.) She then reaches into the helmet to retrieve the ball. Is THAT at catch? Or ruled fair or foul depending on the location of the ball when it landed? Or a DDB?

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

Or is it not yet?

Has the ball hit the ground? If not can the fielder retrieve the ball inside the glove by picking up the glove? Does that make it a catch yet or would she need to throw the ball to first base to retire the BR?

She did not throw her glove at the ball, so there is no penalty there.

Another related situation. Batter hits a popup near home plate - not very high. F2 searching for the ball removes her helmet and the ball falls into it. F2 did not move her helmet towards the ball, the ball just landed there. (Hey, if there are case studies that think a thrown ball can end up in the umpire's ball bag, this is just as ludicrous, er, possible.) She then reaches into the helmet to retrieve the ball. Is THAT at catch? Or ruled fair or foul depending on the location of the ball when it landed? Or a DDB?

Legally discarded equipment (catchers's mask, catcher's helmet, batter's bat) laying on the ground is treated as part of the ground. Start there with your "what-if" ludicrousness.

[Tru_in_Blu]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

Legally discarded equipment (catchers's mask, catcher's helmet, batter's bat) laying on the ground is treated as part of the ground. Start there with your "what-if" ludicrousness.

F2 has not discarded her catcher's helmet, she was still holding it when the ball fell into it.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

F2 has not discarded her catcher's helmet, she was still holding it when the ball fell into it.

Then, see youngump above.

Either case, handling the ball with detached equipment.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Not

If she picks up the glove has she handled the ball with detached equipment?