Did she go?

BretMan · #1 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 09, 2015, 07:58am

No, only the defense may ask for help on a checked swing.

3afan · #2 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 09, 2015, 08:04am

The NFHS rule book is silent on this specific situation. Didn't check the case book.

3afan · #3 (**permalink**) Sat Oct 10, 2015, 05:09am

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Originally Posted by 3afan

The NFHS rule book is silent on this specific situation. Didn't check the case book.

same for ASA rule book (per our chapter's rule guru)

EsqUmp · #4 (**permalink**) Sun Oct 11, 2015, 08:51am

Out of curiosity, why didn't the umpire go ON HIS OWN?

Yet another example of not preventing a problem. Those who "think" the know what "preventative officiating" is tend to understand the concept the least.

IRISHMAFIA · #5 (**permalink**) Sun Oct 11, 2015, 06:51pm

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Originally Posted by EsqUmp

Out of curiosity, why didn't the umpire go ON HIS OWN?

Yet another example of not preventing a problem. Those who "think" the know what "preventative officiating" is tend to understand the concept the least.

Why would he go if he already judged there was no swing? Are you suggesting the PU go every time the batter brings the bat forward?

AtlUmpSteve · #6 (**permalink**) Sun Oct 11, 2015, 09:56pm

The PU should go for help on any "checked" swing ruled a ball, even without being asked, any time the PLATE UMPIRE believes there may be an issue from being unsure; agreed.

The OP never suggested any doubt by the PU. Absent that, no reason to go.

We don't answer prayers; just reasonable requests supported by rule. There's a higher authority (many believe) that answers prayers.

EsqUmp · #7 (**permalink**) Wed Oct 14, 2015, 08:53am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Why would he go if he already judged there was no swing? Are you suggesting the PU go every time the batter brings the bat forward?

That's an asinine conclusion not supported at all by what I said. If there is actual doubt, go for help. Don't wait for a shit storm.

Rich · #8 (**permalink**) Wed Oct 14, 2015, 10:13am

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Originally Posted by EsqUmp

That's an asinine conclusion not supported at all by what I said. If there is actual doubt, go for help. Don't wait for a shit storm.

A coach asking does not mean there is actual doubt.

IRISHMAFIA · #9 (**permalink**) Wed Oct 14, 2015, 10:15am

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Originally Posted by EsqUmp

That's an asinine conclusion not supported at all by what I said. If there is actual doubt, go for help. Don't wait for a shit storm.

And where did the OP indicate there was any doubt? For that matter, where did your response indicate "any doubt" as being a condition of your comment?

MD Longhorn · #10 (**permalink**) Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:10pm

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Originally Posted by EsqUmp

That's an asinine conclusion not supported at all by what I said. If there is actual doubt, go for help. Don't wait for a shit storm.

Honestly, I read your comment the same way he did.