Hall of Shame

[Nevadaref]

UNC officially joins the other cheaters in NCAA athletics.

Can we now stop pretending that Roy and Dean were above such?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ncaa-hits...0663--spt.html

[bwburke94]

We stopped pretending a long time ago.

[Nevadaref]

Another Hall of Shame entrant:

"Former Ohio State coach Jim Tressel said he's proud and at least a little surprised to be one of 14 Buckeyes who will be inducted into the university's athletic hall of fame this fall.
Tressel coached Ohio State's football team to a national championship in the 2002 season and won 94 games during his 10 years there as coach. He resigned in May 2011 after the NCAA discovered the coach had withheld information during an investigation into some of his players selling memorabilia and receiving illegal benefits.
For his role in that scandal, Tressel received a five-year show-cause penalty from the NCAA, meaning any school that wanted to hire him during that period would also have to take on the penalties from his time at Ohio State."

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Another Hall of Shame entrant:

"Former Ohio State coach Jim Tressel said he's proud and at least a little surprised to be one of 14 Buckeyes who will be inducted into the university's athletic hall of fame this fall.
Tressel coached Ohio State's football team to a national championship in the 2002 season and won 94 games during his 10 years there as coach. He resigned in May 2011 after the NCAA discovered the coach had withheld information during an investigation into some of his players selling memorabilia and receiving illegal benefits.
For his role in that scandal, Tressel received a five-year show-cause penalty from the NCAA, meaning any school that wanted to hire him during that period would also have to take on the penalties from his time at Ohio State."

And Jim Tressel got hosed by the NCAA. There was no violations by OSU players. They sold items that belonged to them. The NCAA penalized Tressel, the players, OSU for imaginary rules violations. Furthermore, the alleged information that Tressel withheld from the NCAA was actually information that Tressel was not entitled to have; the information was confidential client-lawyer information which the lawyer had a duty not to reveal to Tressel. The lawyer has since been disbarred by the Bar of the State of Ohio.

None-the-less we Youngstown State University Penguins are proud to have Jim Tressel as our President and Bo Pellini as our football coach.

The NCAA punished Tressel for trivial horse manure while SEC coaches get away with far worse stuff. Case in point: Cam Newton and Auburn University.

MTD, Sr.

[Nevadaref]

Cam can easily be inducted into the HoS.

Tressel deserved more punishment than he received.
Exactly what academic qualifications does he have for being President of a University? Want to know why higher education in this country is so screwed up?--just follow all the money and corruption that accompanies college athletics.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Cam can easily be inducted into the HoS.

Tressel deserved more punishment than he received.
Exactly what academic qualifications does he have for being President of a University? Want to know why higher education in this country is so screwed up?--just follow all the money and corruption that accompanies college athletics.

Tressel, while he was HC at YSU and HC at OSU, with his wife raised and donated millions of dollars to YSU for both athletic and academic use. His YSU teams were above the norm for graduating within 6 years.

The YSU presidet that Tressel replaced was making $375,000 per year at YSU. Tressel signed a 3 year contract as president: $300,000 per year for the first two years and the Board of Trustees would determine whether he would get a raise, a pay cut or his salary would stay the same for his third year depending upon his performance his first two years.

MTD, Sr.

[Camron Rust]

Come on mark, this is not really defensible.

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

And Jim Tressel got hosed by the NCAA. There was no violations by OSU players. They sold items that belonged to them. The NCAA penalized Tressel, the players, OSU for imaginary rules violations.

That is a violation if the selling of the stuff was enabled by their football status while they were still players....and it was. They sold the items for more than their intrinsic value as a result of their "amateur" football achievements.

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Furthermore, the alleged information that Tressel withheld from the NCAA was actually information that Tressel was not entitled to have; the information was confidential client-lawyer information which the lawyer had a duty not to reveal to Tressel.

Irrelevant. He had it. Only the lawyer is free from having to reveal it. A coach has no such requirement or protection. He deliberately withheld the information...perhaps lied about it.

What is really a shame is that they deferred the punishment for the players until the following season so they could play in a bowl game then declare for the draft so they wouldn't have any penalty at all. And then, the players that stayed paid their penalty by being ineligible for a bowl the next year.

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

The lawyer has since been disbarred by the Bar of the State of Ohio.

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The NCAA punished Tressel for trivial horse manure while SEC coaches get away with far worse stuff. Case in point: Cam Newton and Auburn University.

MTD, Sr.

And here you bring up a case where neither the school nor the player did anything at all. There were suspicions, but there was no evidence or facts....unlike the OSU situation. And while I'm enjoy watching Auburn, I'm not a Auburn fan.

[chapmaja]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

And Jim Tressel got hosed by the NCAA. There was no violations by OSU players. They sold items that belonged to them. The NCAA penalized Tressel, the players, OSU for imaginary rules violations. Furthermore, the alleged information that Tressel withheld from the NCAA was actually information that Tressel was not entitled to have; the information was confidential client-lawyer information which the lawyer had a duty not to reveal to Tressel. The lawyer has since been disbarred by the Bar of the State of Ohio.

None-the-less we Youngstown State University Penguins are proud to have Jim Tressel as our President and Bo Pellini as our football coach.

The NCAA punished Tressel for trivial horse manure while SEC coaches get away with far worse stuff. Case in point: Cam Newton and Auburn University.

MTD, Sr.

The only stuff I agree with you on is in red. Everything else about Tressel and the NCAA you are blowing smoke with. YSU might be proud to have Tressel back, but that is beside the point of the NCAA issues he had at OSU.