Oklahoma Playoffs -- Update

[CT1]

Interesting article from the NYT, citing previous court cases:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/09/sp...-playoffs.html

[HLin NC]

If it drags on, just vacate the title and don't declare a winner for that division. Between exams, holidays, and winter sports, at some point football has to end.

I love how the judge acknowledges skepticism yet grants an injunction.

Kicking the can down the road.

[Rich]

If I were Oklahoma, I'd be figuring out how to comply with any injunction while still not giving Douglass anything they want.

[Robert Goodman]

Since they're so serious about football in Oklahoma, next time there's a legal dispute, they should settle it by a football game.

[CT1]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

If it drags on, just vacate the title and don't declare a winner for that division.

I suspect the team that is already in the finals would have a HUGE problem with that.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by Rich

If I were Oklahoma, I'd be figuring out how to comply with any injunction while still not giving Douglass anything they want.

Not a bad idea, but today the prevailing wisdom seems to be give any squeaking wheels all the oil they demand, regardless of what effect it may have on how overall, things actually work.

[PATRICK]

“Adults in a split second can negate months and years of hard work by kids,” Keith Sinor, the athletic director of Oklahoma City public schools, said Monday. “Our kids shouldn’t be held accountable for those mistakes — especially in a situation where they can be corrected.”

With that logic, If a coach makes a mistake, we could replay it too.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by PATRICK

“Adults in a split second can negate months and years of hard work by kids,” Keith Sinor, the athletic director of Oklahoma City public schools, said Monday. “Our kids shouldn’t be held accountable for those mistakes — especially in a situation where they can be corrected.”

With that logic, If a coach makes a mistake, we could replay it too.

So calling what turns out to be a play that didn't work is the same as misapplying a rule and its penalty?

This case seems kinda like getting convicted for running a green light and not being able to appeal it.

[PATRICK]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

So calling what turns out to be a play that didn't work is the same as misapplying a rule and its penalty?

This case seems kinda like getting convicted for running a green light and not being able to appeal it.

The rule wasn't misapplied, the enforcement was.

But, I digress. I'm addressing this: “Adults in a split second can negate months and years of hard work by kids,” Keith Sinor, the athletic director of Oklahoma City public schools, said Monday. “Our kids shouldn’t be held accountable for those mistakes — especially in a situation where they can be corrected.”

As I said in my earlier post, With that logic, If a coach makes a mistake, we could replay it too.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

So calling what turns out to be a play that didn't work is the same as misapplying a rule and its penalty?

This case seems kinda like getting convicted for running a green light and not being able to appeal it.

More like getting convicted for running a red light (he DID commit the infraction he was being penalized for), and getting fined $300 instead of the $75 it says on the back of the ticket.

But in any case, it's idiotic to me that this case ever moved forward. Refs make mistakes. Appealing one after the game is over (one you didn't even appeal on the field when it happened) and insisting the game get replayed from that point is idiotic. They might as well replay every single game ever.

[Rich]

Douglass-Locust Grove: Police report released in incident involving HS football official, Douglass fan | News OK

[PATRICK]

I'm waiting to see what the results of the 1:30 hearing are. I keep checking Google every five minutes!

[Rich]

Originally Posted by PATRICK

I'm waiting to see what the results of the 1:30 hearing are. I keep checking Google every five minutes!

You can stop. The judge won't announce until 10AM CST tomorrow.

[APG]

Douglass-Locust Grove: Judge denies Douglass' request for injunction | News OK

And here's a PDF of the filing from the judge:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/content.new...AADouglass.pdf

[Rich]

Originally Posted by APG

Douglass-Locust Grove: Judge denies Douglass' request for injunction | News OK

And here's a PDF of the filing from the judge:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/content.new...AADouglass.pdf

The judge used some very, very good words and phrases here.

Bravo to him. He gets it.