Misapplied rule in Oklahoma HS playoffs

[bainsey]

Surprised to not see this here already....

OKCPS Calling On OSSAA After 3A Quarterfinals Game

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Surprised to not see this here already....

OKCPS Calling On OSSAA After 3A Quarterfinals Game

I'd like to see this part get more attention. Bringing this from another forum:

"This is my local association that this crew belongs to. While nothing excuses the misapplication of the rule, there is something that isn't being reported by the news nor the state association.

As a side note, the coach did not question the enforcement, just the actual call itself.

Following the foul, the Head Coach for the offending team physically threatened the LJ several times and after being ejected, refused to leave the field. As the officials were leaving the field, the HC was following after them screaming. He was saying that they better hope they have an escort cause he was gonna kill them. As the officials were entering the locker room a fan sucker punched the H (who coincidentally is a local police officer). The HC then started banging on the locker room door demanding that they come out and take their beating. The school prinicipal also told them to get out of the locker room as they were no longer welcome. The AD actually had to "protect" the crew until the police arrived.

This has actually shined a massive light on the fact that the state and host school provided ZERO security for the crew. We are waiting for school to get back in session to see what administrators do in response."

[CT1]

Followup interview with one of the officials:

High school football: Football official Chris Cervantes upset about bad call in Douglass-Locust Grove game | NewsOK.com

[BoomerSooner]

The latest news on this is that the OSSAA Board of Directors will hear an appeal on the matter on Wednesday, despite initially saying their bylaws and NFHS rules did not allow for an appeal of an official's mistake. The request is that the final 1:04 be replayed with the TD awarded and starting with the ensuing try.

I'm not advocating either way with regards to the appeal (nor do I have an opinion on if the appeal should even be heard). That said, should the decision come down that the final 1:04 is to be replayed, there is still the matter of the 5 yard penalty for the sideline infraction and a 15 yard USC penalty (I would not support saying the USC should be waived because it was in response to a mistake). Being that the score would be 25-20, could the defense's head coach elect to split the penalties up to move the try back 5 yards (making what should be a 2 point try a little longer) and then back the kick up 15 yards to gain field position for a game winning or tying FG drive or do they have to be enforced from the same spot? I can't find anything requiring it, so I would think a strategic minded coach might have some thinking to do in this situation.

[MD Longhorn]

I vote multiple 15-yard penalties for the nonsense on the way to the locker room. Make them kick off from the inch line.

[bainsey]

The Decision of the Appeal

[Suudy]

Seems the politicians are getting involved:

OK Senator Calling On OSSAA After Controversial Douglass-Locust - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports |

From the article:

The community leaders said they believe racial bias may have played a role in the officiating though they stopped short of calling it a racist issue. Pittman and other Oklahoma City leaders called for "justice" and "change" in the OSSAA.

“It's not a black or white thing, it's about doing the right thing,” Pittman said.

Officials are racist, eh?

[Welpe]

A misapplied rule clearly indicates systemic bias against...nevermind, I can't even finish this thought. Sigh...now I've read it all.

[Suudy]

Originally Posted by Welpe

A misapplied rule clearly indicates systemic bias against...nevermind, I can't even finish this thought. Sigh...now I've read it all.

Right. Because no other team at any level has ever had a misapplied rule.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Suudy

Seems the politicians are getting involved:

OK Senator Calling On OSSAA After Controversial Douglass-Locust - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports |

From the article:


Officials are racist, eh?

The shirts are Black AND White

[JRutledge]

And this is why you should consider the makeup of the crew in order to eliminate that issue. Not always possible, but it is factored in many times so that these issues can be about the situation and not destracted by a side issue.

That being said, not sure why this was not corrected.

Peace

[Rich]

Douglass-Locust Grove: Locust-Grove-Heritage Hall 3A semifinal postponed | News OK …

A few words comes to mind: Egregious, arbitrary, capricious, and contrary to the NFHS rules.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And this is why you should consider the makeup of the crew in order to eliminate that issue. Not always possible, but it is factored in many times so that these issues can be about the situation and not destracted by a side issue.

No you shouldn't. It should just be the best crew you can get. So if you have two teams with white coaches, the crew should be all white? Then there would be an uproar over not using black officials. Race shouldn't matter. The fact is they enforced from the wrong spot, that's it. It just so happens that 3 of the 5 calling this game were black, including the referee, who has been officiating football for 32 years. Why arent his motives called into question?

[Texas Aggie]

Putting aside some mobility issues by the crew, I can not for the life of me figure out why at least one of 5 guys on a state quarterfinal game crew could not go in there with the correct enforcement. It appears Fed enforcement on this is the same as NCAA and if so, its not a tricky enforcement.

The video doesn't make clear -- where did they end up enforcing the foul from? The previous spot?

Is there any action being taken on the antics after the game?

[zm1283]

These people at OKC Public Schools are complete jackwads. This is a high school football game.

I can't believe a court has jurisdiction over something like this.

Stuff like this comes from our society's current mentality of instant gratification. We can't tell kids that sh*t happens and things may not go their way sometimes and they may get the short end of the stick. We have to keep everyone happy.

Old man rant over.