Video for review.

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by AremRed

49ers hit on Seahawks TE: probably a good call. I can see both sides to the argument. Mike Pereira liked it so I will defer to his judgement.

Holding on Aldon Smith by Russell Okung: bad no-call. Pretty clear holding.

Shove OOB by 49ers player: probably bad call. Not enough to draw a 15 yard personal foul.

Intentional grounding not called: from the end zone camera angle it was a close play. I thought Wilson was still in the pocket, but it could go either way.

I do not know anything about the timing issues, someone else will have to address those.

I liked the UNR call. The defender clearly launched. It was only by luck that helmets didn't collide. Don't leave your feet and turn into a missile if you don't want to be subject to a foul. If that technically wasn't a foul it should be a foul.

There was not enough restriction on the Okung block to be a foul. Very borderline if it had been called. Make them big. I like the no-call.

I liked the PF on the push OOB. There was absolutely no reason for him to do anything at that point and the push was well after the ball had passed and out of bounds. Like the UNR, don't force the official to make a decision. You may not like his decision.

I read an article from a SF columnist who broke down this video and he said he saw a coach's video that showed Wilson likely did get outside the tackle box. Either way it was close and I would assume the "when-in-doubt" on this is to say he's out.

The DOG call is easy. The clock stopped when the runner went out of bounds. The play clock starts immediately but the game clock starts when the ball is spotted. A 6-second gap is very reasonable. The other one is odd but for some reason the officials called a timeout and reset the play clock. There are several possible reasons for it.

Originally Posted by bisonlj

Don't leave your feet and turn into a missile if you don't want to be subject to a foul.

Originally Posted by bisonlj

I liked the PF on the push OOB. There was absolutely no reason for him to do anything at that point and the push was well after the ball had passed and out of bounds. Like the UNR, don't force the official to make a decision. You may not like his decision.

While it is true that if you don't want the official to throw the flag don't do anything marginal, this is fallacious reasoning. The PF was marginal and similar contact by the Seahawks defense was not called.

Originally Posted by bisonlj

There was not enough restriction on the Okung block to be a foul. Very borderline if it had been called.

In my opinion, if Aldon Smith is not held he sacks Wilson. I would call that more than "borderline". This level of restriction gets called at every level of football: clearly an advantage gained as Smith has gotten past the tackle who has to hold him to prevent a significant pressure on the QB.

Originally Posted by bisonlj

Either way it was close and I would assume the "when-in-doubt" on this is to say he's out.

Given that the 49ers had an intentional grounding call earlier in the game, I would say the "when-in-doubt" thing to do is match up calls.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AremRed

In my opinion, if Aldon Smith is not held he sacks Wilson. I would call that more than "borderline". This level of restriction gets called at every level of football: clearly an advantage gained as Smith has gotten past the tackle who has to hold him to prevent a significant pressure on the QB.

And if you call that in the NFL, you would not be there very long. Not only was Smith allowed to change direction when Wilson took another angle, he did not get taken down. Both his blocker and Smith extended their arms on each other. There was no restriction and would have been seen as very technical by the NFL and even those at the NCAA level. That would not be a hold in a varsity HS game IMO either.

Originally Posted by AremRed

Given that the 49ers had an intentional grounding call earlier in the game, I would say the "when-in-doubt" thing to do is match up calls.

MIBT. Do not match up a call that might not have even been similar earlier in the game. Not all similar rules violations are the same type of plays.

Peace

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And if you call that in the NFL, you would not be there very long. Not only was Smith allowed to change direction when Wilson took another angle, he did not get taken down. Both his blocker and Smith extended their arms on each other. There was no restriction and would have been seen as very technical by the NFL and even those at the NCAA level. That would not be a hold in a varsity HS game IMO either.

MIBT. Do not match up a call that might not have even been similar earlier in the game. Not all similar rules violations are the same type of plays.

Peace

Agree 100% I'm guessing he's not an official or not one who has worked at a level where his work was correctly evaluated. I see the Alden Smith-type restriction called a lot at the HS level just because you see a grab. The concept of material restriction is something guys have to learn with experience. The more you see it the more you understand what is and is not a foul.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

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Given that the 49ers had an intentional grounding call earlier in the game, I would say the "when-in-doubt" thing to do is match up calls.

In what way were the 2 plays similar?

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

In what way were the 2 plays similar?

There were 11 players on offense. They snapped the ball to a back (AKA a quarterback). There was pressure on the QB. He threw the ball away for an incomplete pass. They are exactly the same. /sarcasm

[BIG UMP]

Rita, the best response to this is absolutely no response. You are never going to convince a biased fan that the officials were correct or made an mistake with a call or no call.

If your friend calls back tell him there was alot of discussion and there never was a definitive decision except that there is no conspiracy. This would actually be true in that there is disagreement on some plays.

[APG]

Originally Posted by bisonlj

I read an article from a SF columnist who broke down this video and he said he saw a coach's video that showed Wilson likely did get outside the tackle box. Either way it was close and I would assume the "when-in-doubt" on this is to say he's out.

This is correct...if it's close, then the referee is to rule the passer out of the pocket area.