49ers/Seahawks

[Suudy]

Originally Posted by Rich

Watching Harbaugh's antics during the game, I found myself rooting for the Seahawks harder than any game that doesn't involve the Eagles (love them) or Cowboys (despise them).

I used to be a great fan of Arizona (the Wildcats, not Cardinals), despite my alma mater. Tomey was a class act, and when I worked in the athletic department in college, had a run in with him in the pre-game.

But when Baby Stoops came to AZ, his sideline antics instantly turned me off. I went from a fan to an absolute hater. And the fact that the P12 crews let him run onto the field screaming, sometimes down near the goalline, without a flag irked me. I was thrilled when he got canned. And I've since watched a few OU games, and he still rants and raves there.

I get they are passionate. But when it explodes into jackass behavior, the league(s) and owners/administrators should reign them in.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Suudy

I used to be a great fan of Arizona (the Wildcats, not Cardinals), despite my alma mater. Tomey was a class act, and when I worked in the athletic department in college, had a run in with him in the pre-game.

But when Baby Stoops came to AZ, his sideline antics instantly turned me off. I went from a fan to an absolute hater. And the fact that the P12 crews let him run onto the field screaming, sometimes down near the goalline, without a flag irked me. I was thrilled when he got canned. And I've since watched a few OU games, and he still rants and raves there.

I get they are passionate. But when it explodes into jackass behavior, the league(s) and owners/administrators should reign them in.

Allowing the officials to flag that garbage would be a necessary starting point.

[Suudy]

Originally Posted by Adam

Allowing the officials to flag that garbage would be a necessary starting point.

They aren't allowed?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Suudy

They aren't allowed?

I'm guessing they'd throw the flag if they'd be supported.

Lack of support is tantamount to not being "allowed" IMO.

[HLin NC]

The players shouldn't be expected to pullup if they tackle or take other action near the chains.

They should if the opponent is already OOB.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

They should if the opponent is already OOB.

But in this play, the Seattle player was still inbounds when he was shoved.

I truly think, despite looking through the prism of a Niner fan, that this was a flag I'd rather not throw. There wasn't enough there in that situation to justify a flag IMO.

[Suudy]

Originally Posted by Welpe

But in this play, the Seattle player was still inbounds when he was shoved.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Welpe

I truly think, despite looking through the prism of a Niner fan, that this was a flag I'd rather not throw. There wasn't enough there in that situation to justify a flag IMO.

And, despite being a Seahawks fan, this is a flag I'd rather not throw. I don't think the official was worried about safety regarding the down box (and I think the down box guy should have been pulling back and dropping at that point). The only thing I can think he was considering was that the pass was obviously not going to be caught. And that was dubious, IMO.

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by Welpe

But in this play, the Seattle player was still inbounds when he was shoved.

I truly think, despite looking through the prism of a Niner fan, that this was a flag I'd rather not throw. There wasn't enough there in that situation to justify a flag IMO.

Definitely still in bounds but out of the play. There was no need for him to contact his opponent, but he decides to get a shove in by extending his arm and knocking him into the sideline. This was completely unnecessary. Maybe it was too technical but don't do something stupid if you don't want to risk getting flagged. My initial reaction when I saw it was "I can see that." I'm sure opinions are mixed through. This is not a black and white play.

[Suudy]

Originally Posted by Adam

I'm guessing they'd throw the flag if they'd be supported.

Lack of support is tantamount to not being "allowed" IMO.

Fair enough. The P12 officials have, IMO, become the lower tier of DI officiating. And it is allowing behavior like this that has been a part of it. Whether that is an "upper management" issue, such as not supporting officials, poor training, or poor recruiting, or just a string of bad luck or aging officials, I'm not sure.