End of Giants-Redskins game

[bisonlj]

I don't think this was an issue of measuring vs. not measuring. The 46 was the line to gain and the ball was obviously placed well short of the 46. There was no reason to stop the clock to measure. The reason to stop the clock was to correct the H and put the chains back where they belong based on the spot. I do question the spot since the L appeared to have the 46 but ceded to the H for some reason.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by JasonTX

I can understand why Tripplette didn't stop the game to give them a free timeout, but, this whole mess could have been avoided if he would have went with the LJ. I always look to the LJ for determining if it's a first down. If he's giving me a first down, as Referee, I'm giving the signal and we are moving the chains.

Mike Pereira was on a national radio show last night and they were talking about this situation. I just caught the last couple of minutes of it. He said that in the NFL, the HL should not move the chains at all until the R signals to him that it is a first down, which didn't happen since Tripplette was signaling third down before the snap.

[tmagan]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Mike Pereira was on a national radio show last night and they were talking about this situation. I just caught the last couple of minutes of it. He said that in the NFL, the HL should not move the chains at all until the R signals to him that it is a first down, which didn't happen since Tripplette was signaling third down before the snap.

True, but I believe the HL believed that Triplette was signaling first down, in fact that was what I think Al saw when he said a first down was rewarded. Looking at the replay, it is awfully tough to discern that it was a third down signal unless you were standing next to Triplette. All the time you see the HL signaling the chain gang to move when the runner obviously reached the line to gain.

[hbk314]

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Triplette's on a roll.

[bisonlj]

I watched several replays and could not tell if the NT made contact. It looks very possible he tripped on his own which means the reversal was correct. If Triplett did not look at the possible early contact then he may be in a bit of trouble. Per the pool report transcript he only looked at the goal line.

Originally Posted by bisonlj

If Triplett did not look at the possible early contact then he may be in a bit of trouble. Per the pool report transcript he only looked at the goal line.

Correct.

Cincinnati Bengals vs. Indianapolis Colts Pool Report

[Rich]

Originally Posted by hbk314

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Triplette's on a roll.

Hey, thanks for proving my theory. You realize this isn't a forum to come and bitch about pro officials missing calls, right?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Rich

Hey, thanks for proving my theory. You realize this isn't a forum to come and bitch about pro officials missing calls, right?

Doubt he's even a baseball umpire either. He's never once posted in the Baseball forum concerning a situation he was involved in.

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Doubt he's even a baseball umpire either. He's never once posted in the Baseball forum concerning a situation he was involved in.

Because it would be impossible to learn anything from reading about others' experiences or plays in MLB games, right [mod snip]

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by Rich

Hey, thanks for proving my theory. You realize this isn't a forum to come and bitch about pro officials missing calls, right?

It's not like I'm complaining about every little thing. Or any little thing, really. The only threads I've started have been about huge errors. I only posted that link in here because it was the same referee the very next week, making it somewhat relevant here.

I'm not here mindlessly bashing. I'm commenting on plays as I see them from a non-official's point of view, and I'm getting an official's point of view in response. That's why I post here. Obviously the people on this forum are going to have a better understanding of why things are called the way they are, or the rules that come into play in certain situations, than some idiot on a fan forum or ESPN comment page.

I'm not sure what the problem is with saying a call is wrong when it's wrong. Is there a reason I can't offer my opinion on a play when bringing it up for discussion?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by hbk314

,,,
I'm not sure what the problem is with saying a call is wrong when it's wrong. Is there a reason I can't offer my opinion on a play when bringing it up for discussion?

Yeah, the part where somebody responds with answer you don't like, so then you argue the point, even though you've never officiated the sport.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by hbk314

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Triplette's on a roll.

It appears to me they got this one right, despite the idiots claiming differently. This isn't NCAA rules people.

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

It appears to me they got this one right, despite the idiots claiming differently. This isn't NCAA rules people.

The issue here is the potential contact was not at the goal line but back at the 4/5 when he was tripped. That is the contact that was ruled to have put the runner down, but Triplett didn't look at that part of the play to determine if there was contact. I don't think it's conclusive so the call on the field should have stood.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by bisonlj

The issue here is the potential contact was not at the goal line but back at the 4/5 when he was tripped. That is the contact that was ruled to have put the runner down,

How in the world could you possibly know this.

And ... seems to me in the replay there's no chance he was tripped by the NT (I admit the one video in this thread is inconclusive). The one shown on the NFL Red Zone was pretty clear.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by hbk314

Bengals' BenJarvus Green-Ellis Scores Controversial TD Against Colts | Bleacher Report

Triplette's on a roll.

My advice: maybe start a discussion to see if people here think the call was missed rather than just diving in and, well, I'll leave it at that.