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Old Fri Oct 04, 2013, 09:19am
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Old Fri Oct 04, 2013, 09:33am
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First play, I'm not sure why they'd call down by contact, but I can understand a "forward progress was stopped prior to losing the ball" ruling.

Definitely a fumble on the second play, but I can't tell from the camera angles in that clip who recovered it. Kinda surprised replay didn't get involved in that one, since an 'immediate recovery' can be reviewed even if the initial ruling had the runner down.

The lesson, as always: "see runner down with possession of the ball before you blow your whistle"
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Old Fri Oct 04, 2013, 09:47am
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The first play looks like forward progress was stopped.

The second play is a fumble for sure.

Both plays seemed to be rather quick to call these plays dead.

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Old Fri Oct 04, 2013, 10:15am
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I can see where it was a really difficult play to call from the field. However, I think the replay official should have called it a fumble because forward progress was not called on the field. The whistle blew after ISU had possession of the ball.
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Old Fri Oct 04, 2013, 10:48am
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I don't see how in the first play the forward progress was stopped. If that player doesn't fumble and falls into the end zone, it would definitely be a touchdown. Really quick whistle and they missed it.
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Old Fri Oct 04, 2013, 10:48am
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I can see where it was a really difficult play to call from the field. However, I think the replay official should have called it a fumble because forward progress was not called on the field. The whistle blew after ISU had possession of the ball.
Well replay cannot determine forward progress under the current rules. And the whistle is not the issue. If the replay official was told this was a forward progress play and the ball was ripped out, then they could not overturn based on when the whistle blew.

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Old Fri Oct 04, 2013, 11:33am
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Well replay cannot determine forward progress under the current rules. And the whistle is not the issue. If the replay official was told this was a forward progress play and the ball was ripped out, then they could not overturn based on when the whistle blew.

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The the referee should have stated forward progress was stopped, not that the runner was down by contact.
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Old Fri Oct 04, 2013, 12:23pm
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First of all, I'm a huge Longhorn fan.

First play. Clearly a fumble. They didn't rule his forward progress was stopped, which isn't reviewable, correct? They ruled him down by contact, which is reviewable. They reviewed it and still didn't change it. In my view it was a fumble.

Second play. Again, clearly looks like a fumble to me, but I do believe that Gray recovered the ball.
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Old Fri Oct 04, 2013, 12:29pm
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The the referee should have stated forward progress was stopped, not that the runner was down by contact.
True, but clearly the issue was forward progress as you cannot determine that. And it was not an actual fumble as much as the ball being stripped out of the hands of the player. So the only issue was forward progress IMO.

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