Is this legal in NFHS?

[voiceoflg]

Eastern Kentucky-Morehead State:

[maven]

Provided that it was caught behind the NZ (very close), yes.

If beyond the NZ, then it would be a dead ball, R 1/10, and some risk of KCI (obstructing R's path to the kick).

[asdf]

Yep...

Provided the kick did was caught behind the NZ, the player could have passed it forward or even kicked it again.

[asdf]

Sorry Maven....

You beat me to the punch

[MD Longhorn]

Honestly, this play should have been ended at the moment of the catch - he was beyond the NZ, and HL should have caught that.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Honestly, this play should have been ended at the moment of the catch - he was beyond the NZ, and HL should have caught that.

I don't think so, myself. LOS was the 40, he caught it at the 40. Unless he's clearly illegal, he's legal, IMO.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by Rich

I don't think so, myself. LOS was the 40, he caught it at the 40. Unless he's clearly illegal, he's legal, IMO.

His first touch might have been at the forty, but possession was gained at the 41, IMO.

[Welpe]

When he actually comes down and makes the catch, I think it is close but the ball seems to be right on the 40 with his right leg at around the 41. Speaking NCAA any touching in or behind the neutral zone before the kick crosses the neutral zone is ignored.

[maven]

Originally Posted by Welpe

When he actually comes down and makes the catch, I think it is close but the ball seems to be right on the 40 with his right leg at around the 41. Speaking NCAA any touching in or behind the neutral zone before the kick crosses the neutral zone is ignored.

That's what I see. If not clearly beyond, it's behind.

[bigjohn]

In NFHS is it the NZ or ENZ??

ART. 3 . . . Any K player may catch or recover a scrimmage kick while it is in
or behind the neutral zone and advance, unless it is during a try.


ART. 5 . . . When any K player touches a scrimmage kick beyond the expanded neutral zone to R’s goal line before it is touched beyond the neutral zone by R
and before the ball has come to rest, it is referred to as “first touching of the kick”
and the place is the “spot of first touching.” Such touching is ignored if it is
caused by R pushing or blocking K into contact with the ball.

[HLin NC]

It is as it reads- Article 3 is the NZ, Article 5 is the ENZ

Article 5 is to allow the touching in the ENZ to be ignored by linemen attempting to bat or block the kick. Without that you'd have 1st touching awfully close.

[bigjohn]

Article 5 is to allow the touching in the ENZ to be ignored by linemen attempting to bat or block the kick. Without that you'd have 1st touching awfully close.

When any K player touches a scrimmage kick beyond the expanded neutral zone to R’s goal line


Why would K linemen be trying to bat the kick???


I don't get why one part of the rule says nz and another part says enz.

[bigjohn]

So if K recovers a kick (beyond the NZ) that hits a K player in the ENZ that would result in a first down say it was 4th and 1 it is not a first down but Rs ball, correct?

That is the only part I really think is a bit cloudy.

[HLin NC]

Its ignoring what would be first touching by K in the ENZ, otherwise.