End of Wisconsin - Arizona State game

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

What is it everyone tells me, still photos are worthless!!!!

To call fouls. Yes they are worthless. This is not a foul.

Peace

[MD Longhorn]

Wow. I'm embarrassed. Embarrassed that the officials on this site seem to be 100% in defense of the actions by this crew. Fanboy or not, the OP is correct. Stupidly executed play by the QB no doubt - but surely we're not forgiving the crew on this play simply because the player's form was not perfect. Good grief, people.

The worst part, to me, was the umpire standing up having a conversation with a defensive lineman while precious seconds fade away. There is no question the crew needs to be more aware of the clock than this crew was.

So, that said, has anyone heard if there was any disciplinary action taken?

(PS - most definitely NOT the worst I've ever seen. Oregon vs OU had 2 or 3 plays alone that top this. Both 5th down plays. Nebr-Mich failed Stanforesque ending ... all of these were far worse.)

[qcumpire]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Wow. I'm embarrassed. Embarrassed that the officials on this site seem to be 100% in defense of the actions by this crew. Fanboy or not, the OP is correct. Stupidly executed play by the QB no doubt - but surely we're not forgiving the crew on this play simply because the player's form was not perfect. Good grief, people.

The worst part, to me, was the umpire standing up having a conversation with a defensive lineman while precious seconds fade away. There is no question the crew needs to be more aware of the clock than this crew was.

So, that said, has anyone heard if there was any disciplinary action taken?

(PS - most definitely NOT the worst I've ever seen. Oregon vs OU had 2 or 3 plays alone that top this. Both 5th down plays. Nebr-Mich failed Stanforesque ending ... all of these were far worse.)

My thoughts exactly. Not only were they reprimanded by their own conference supervisor, but the Big 10 supervisor of officials is on record saying they did not handle the situation correctly.

Many times in a inter-conference game like this one, the on-officials come from the visiting team's conference, while the replay official comes from the home team's conference.

I know that wasn't the case here and that the on-field officials were from the Pac 12. My question is, what conference was the replay official from? If he is from the Big 10, will he receive any sanctions from that conference?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by qcumpire

I know that wasn't the case here and that the on-field officials were from the Pac 12. My question is, what conference was the replay official from? If he is from the Big 10, will he receive any sanctions from that conference?

This is not a replay situation. The clock was not stopped and should not have been stopped unless some penalty or other action (which I am still trying to figure out what action could have been taken) was taken.

Peace

[qcumpire]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

This is not a replay situation. The clock was not stopped and should not have been stopped unless some penalty or other action (which I am still trying to figure out what action could have been taken) was taken.

Peace

The reason I ask, is that is has been questioned whether or not the Wisconsin QB's knee was actually down before he placed the ball on the field. After which the ASU player fell on the ball. This would make it a possession question and not a clock issue, and that would be subject to a replay review.

I'm not saying that it should have been reviewed. What I am saying is if they are going to downgrade the deep wings and back judge for this play, even though they are not directly involved, will the conference also look at the replay official for his inaction?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by qcumpire

The reason I ask, is that is has been questioned whether or not the Wisconsin QB's knee was actually down before he placed the ball on the field. After which the ASU player fell on the ball. This would make it a possession question and not a clock issue, and that would be subject to a replay review.

I'm not saying that it should have been reviewed. What I am saying is if they are going to downgrade the deep wings and back judge for this play, even though they are not directly involved, will the conference also look at the replay official for his inaction?

It is not a replay issue because it was not a timing error. Wisconsin ran a play and the clock continues. You cannot go to replay just because you want to. There are very specific situations where replay can get involved and this is not one of them.

And unless there is something I am missing, I doubt seriously the deep wings or BJ were penalized. As I said before this sounds like the crew was mentioned but no comment was made about what specifics were done. If they suspended the crew, I think that would have been mentioned. I think this was about the Referee and the Umpire mostly.

Peace

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by qcumpire

The reason I ask, is that is has been questioned whether or not the Wisconsin QB's knee was actually down before he placed the ball on the field. After which the ASU player fell on the ball. This would make it a possession question and not a clock issue, and that would be subject to a replay review.

I'm not saying that it should have been reviewed. What I am saying is if they are going to downgrade the deep wings and back judge for this play, even though they are not directly involved, will the conference also look at the replay official for his inaction?

So ... you think the replay official should be in trouble for not reviewing the knee-touch? When the replay official had exactly 10 seconds to review it? And when, upon further review, the knee DID touch and the ruling was correct?

I don't follow your logic at all.

[qcumpire]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

So ... you think the replay official should be in trouble for not reviewing the knee-touch? When the replay official had exactly 10 seconds to review it? And when, upon further review, the knee DID touch and the ruling was correct?

I don't follow your logic at all.

No, I'm not saying that at all. I definitely don't think the replay official should be in trouble. I'm just asking the question, will the conference(s) look at this?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by qcumpire

My question is, what conference was the replay official from? If he is from the Big 10, will he receive any sanctions from that conference?

I dismissed this notion the first time someone brought it up, but now I have to ask. What in the world could you possibly fault the replay official for? The replay official had no input whatsoever on this play.