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HLin NC Sun Sep 15, 2013 09:27pm

Can we lock this thing before the p!$$ fight really starts?:rolleyes:

asdf Sun Sep 15, 2013 09:28pm

I gave you my position.

The powers that be will take care of it if they deem necessary.
The sun is still rising and setting.
Your team gave up almost 500 yards of offense.
Your team gave up 32 points.
You aren't getting any sympathy from many on here.
You'll continue to whine about it.

I'm done

hbk314 Sun Sep 15, 2013 09:33pm

I'd have been done awhile ago if people didn't keep making the same incorrect arguments to defend the indefensible.

JRutledge Sun Sep 15, 2013 09:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by hbk314 (Post 905054)
I'd have been done awhile ago if people didn't keep making the same incorrect arguments to defend the indefensible.

Actually people here do not care either way. I am only in this conversation because it is entertaining.

Peace

Adam Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by hbk314 (Post 904994)
I'll be interested to see what you have to say after you see it, because I don't think there's much room for interpretation.

1. It was an epically stupid play for the QB.
2. The video is completely inconclusive on whether or not his knee was down.
3. The R points down, but he seems to be the only one besides the QB who thought the QB was down.
4. The R seems to be trying to tell the U to put the ball down.
5. The U should have killed the clock if he thought B had recovered a fumble.
6. The U doesn't seem to know what the play result was.
7. By the time the U puts the ball down, there is not enough time to spike ball successfully.
8. What an idiotic play by the QB.

Adam Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by hbk314 (Post 905019)
Nothing. It's just the worst bit of officiating I've seen in years.

Not even close, IMO.

Adam Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:49pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by hbk314 (Post 905048)
They let an ASU player hold the ball hostage for 7 seconds on the ground without consequence. There is nothing else to be said.

What consequence? It was a loose ball, and the ASU player reasonably thought it was a fumble. What punishment do you suggest? There's no rule that allows the clock to be stopped if this wasn't an actual fumble, though, so I'm honestly not sure what the officials should have done.

HLin NC Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:31pm

Whatever hbk thinks, I guess.

hbk314 Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 905071)
What consequence? It was a loose ball, and the ASU player reasonably thought it was a fumble. What punishment do you suggest? There's no rule that allows the clock to be stopped if this wasn't an actual fumble, though, so I'm honestly not sure what the officials should have done.

Seven seconds is well beyond a reasonable amount of time to release the ball. Should have been a defensive delay of game penalty.

JRutledge Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by hbk314 (Post 905078)
Seven seconds is well beyond a reasonable amount of time to release the ball. Should have been a defensive delay of game penalty.

And all caused by the stupid actions of Wisconsin and their QB.

Peace

AremRed Mon Sep 16, 2013 01:43am

Let's remember that opinions on the "stupidity" of this play (or the OP being a "fanboy") should be irrelevant to the discussion of the officiating of this play.

JRutledge Mon Sep 16, 2013 03:14am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 905085)
Let's remember that opinions on the "stupidity" of this play (or the OP being a "fanboy") should be irrelevant to the discussion of the officiating of this play.

You have not been here very long have you?

Peace

bigjohn Mon Sep 16, 2013 05:43am

Let's Be Clear About the End of the UW-ASU Game - Off Tackle Empire


http://www.offtackleempire.com/2013/...hdown-seahawks

Adam Mon Sep 16, 2013 07:53am

Quote:

Originally Posted by hbk314 (Post 905078)
Seven seconds is well beyond a reasonable amount of time to release the ball. Should have been a defensive delay of game penalty.

This is where the relevance of whether you (or I) have ever worked FBS football comes into play. Given that there may have been confusion on the part of the ASU players whether it was a fumble (there seems to have been confusion from the umpire), I highly doubt NCAA supervisors want a flag on that.

But again, I don't work that level of football, and I have no access to the instructions they've been given on when to throw the DOG flag for this action and when they're supposed to give the player the benefit of the doubt.

Adam Mon Sep 16, 2013 07:54am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 905085)
Let's remember that opinions on the "stupidity" of this play (or the OP being a "fanboy") should be irrelevant to the discussion of the officiating of this play.

Disagree, in so far as the stupidity of the play has an effect on how the officials can be expected to respond.


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