FED: Protecting the punter

[bisonlj]

A good philosophy I've heard is if the action by the defender is someone trying to tackle a runner you let it go. If the action is someone trying to block a kick you have roughing/running into the kicker. The latter would be a foul if the defender could have avoided the contact, but we are generally talking about pretty immediate action in these cases.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by bisonlj

A good philosophy I've heard is if the action by the defender is someone trying to tackle a runner you let it go. If the action is someone trying to block a kick you have roughing/running into the kicker. The latter would be a foul if the defender could have avoided the contact, but we are generally talking about pretty immediate action in these cases.

I agree with that philosophy and would write it into the rules (in place of what they have now) if I could. The player who's acting like he's blocking a kick reveals he expected a kick, and therefore has the burden of avoiding contact. The player who looks like he's making a tackle should be judged only by the criteria of unnecessary roughness, in the form of contacting a player who's out of play.

[whitehat]

I give a "running punter" the same type of protection I give a passing QB. If there is doubt that a punt will be made I am going to allow contact after he punts to the same degree i would allow contact on a QB after he passes. We seem to have more and more of those running rugby punts recently.

[SE Minnestoa Re]

I've been a white hat for over 30 years. I think when the punter takes off running, you have to give the defense a little more rope, especially if it is uncertain if the punter is going to run or kick.

If the contact occurs just as he kicks, I will likely not make a call provided the contact is not excessive.

Now if the punter does it numerous times, the defense should be aware and careful of what goes on.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by SE Minnestoa Re

I've been a white hat for over 30 years. I think when the punter takes off running, you have to give the defense a little more rope, especially if it is uncertain if the punter is going to run or kick.

If the contact occurs just as he kicks, I will likely not make a call provided the contact is not excessive.

Now if the punter does it numerous times, the defense should be aware and careful of what goes on.

I don't think they can be careful and I don't think the punter necessarily deserves it -- let's face it, the punter is (at times) evaluating whether or not he can continue to run and make the line-to-gain. I don't want to put the defense in a position where they don't pursue the runner because they are afraid they'll pick up a foul -- and then the running punter continues on for a first down.

Everyone expects that this rugby punter is going to get hit from time to time.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by whitehat

I give a "running punter" the same type of protection I give a passing QB. If there is doubt that a punt will be made I am going to allow contact after he punts to the same degree i would allow contact on a QB after he passes. We seem to have more and more of those running rugby punts recently.

This is exactly what I tell a coach with a rugby punter who asks me that question. This is also what I tell the coach of the opponent when he asks me that question.

Frequently, I end up answering the question twice within 5 minutes.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by whitehat

We seem to have more and more of those running rugby punts recently.

What's strange is that the upsurge began after NCAA prohibited kicking from beyond the neutral zone. It's as if the rule change publicized possibilities.