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Old Sat Aug 03, 2013, 09:59pm
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Are they saying it is not targeting, not with the crown of the helmet or something else?
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Old Sat Aug 03, 2013, 10:05pm
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Are they saying it is not targeting, not with the crown of the helmet or something else?
The way it seemed to me they were saying that was a football play. They did not suggest that Clowney launched or that he lead with his head. I would have to look at the tape again, but they talked very specifically about that play and said it was not a foul while showing another play that clearly was a foul in their thinking. And certainly did not consider the Michigan RB to be defenseless because he did not have the ball.

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Old Sat Aug 03, 2013, 11:25pm
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Sounds like they are saying then that it isn't targeting, which I personally disagree with and I don't think jibes with what is written in the book. But C'est la vie.

I agree he wasn't defenseless and it doesn't matter anyways since he wasn't hit high.

Thanks for sharing.
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Old Mon Aug 05, 2013, 09:31am
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Sounds like they are saying then that it isn't targeting, which I personally disagree with and I don't think jibes with what is written in the book. But C'est la vie.

I agree he wasn't defenseless and it doesn't matter anyways since he wasn't hit high.

Thanks for sharing.
I think it's another example of how hard it is to codify this rule. They know it when they see it and they know what they want to eliminate but it's hard to codify it so you get it in text. I see this play as more of a collision and yes his head is down if you break it down frame by frame. But watching it in real time you don't see that as easily.

The RB is not defenseless in this situation so you can take that out of it.
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Old Sun Aug 04, 2013, 11:53pm
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The way it seemed to me they were saying that was a football play. They did not suggest that Clowney launched or that he lead with his head. I would have to look at the tape again, but they talked very specifically about that play and said it was not a foul while showing another play that clearly was a foul in their thinking. And certainly did not consider the Michigan RB to be defenseless because he did not have the ball.

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