Do you flag this for illegal motion?

[HLin NC]

Breaking the huddle would be a shift.

7-2-6: After a huddle or shift all 11 players of A shall come to an absolute stop and shall remain stationary simultaneously without movement of hands, feet, head or body for at least one second before the snap.

PENALTY:illegal shift (Art. 6) – (S20);

ART. 7 . . . Only one A player may be in motion at the snap and then only if such motion is not toward his opponent's goal line. Except for the player "under the snapper," as outlined in Article 3, the player in motion shall be at least 5 yards behind his line of scrimmage at the snap if he started from any position not clearly behind the line and did not establish himself as a back by stopping for at least one full second while no part of his body is breaking the vertical plane through the waistline of his nearest teammate who is on the line of scrimmage.

PENALTY: illegal motion (Art. 7) – (S20);

Assuming the huddle was more than 5 yards from the LOS, as most are, he is already established as a back and he doesn't turn towards his opponent's goal line so it is not illegal motion.

At best its illegal shift, it sure isn't a false start.

Rule: 7-1-7

ART. 7 . . . After the ball is marked ready for play and before the snap begins, no false start shall be made by any A player. It is a false start if:

a. A shift or feigned charge simulates action at the snap.

b. Any act is clearly intended to cause B to encroach.

c. Any A player on his line between the snapper and the player on the end of his line, after having placed a hand(s) on or near the ground, moves his hand(s) or makes any quick movement.

As a wing, if he's behind me, he's off the field.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

Breaking the huddle would be a shift.

7-2-6: After a huddle or shift all 11 players of A shall come to an absolute stop and shall remain stationary simultaneously without movement of hands, feet, head or body for at least one second before the snap.

PENALTY:illegal shift (Art. 6) – (S20);

ART. 7 . . . Only one A player may be in motion at the snap and then only if such motion is not toward his opponent's goal line. Except for the player "under the snapper," as outlined in Article 3, the player in motion shall be at least 5 yards behind his line of scrimmage at the snap if he started from any position not clearly behind the line and did not establish himself as a back by stopping for at least one full second while no part of his body is breaking the vertical plane through the waistline of his nearest teammate who is on the line of scrimmage.

PENALTY: illegal motion (Art. 7) – (S20);

Assuming the huddle was more than 5 yards from the LOS, as most are, he is already established as a back and he doesn't turn towards his opponent's goal line so it is not illegal motion.

At best its illegal shift, it sure isn't a false start.

Rule: 7-1-7

ART. 7 . . . After the ball is marked ready for play and before the snap begins, no false start shall be made by any A player. It is a false start if:

a. A shift or feigned charge simulates action at the snap.

b. Any act is clearly intended to cause B to encroach.

c. Any A player on his line between the snapper and the player on the end of his line, after having placed a hand(s) on or near the ground, moves his hand(s) or makes any quick movement.

As a wing, if he's behind me, he's off the field.

NCAA rules, it's 7-2-b-5. Clearly a false start, by rule.

And of course if he's behind you he's off the field. You're on the white, so naturally he's off the field. I wouldn't step forward to put him behind me, though.

[HLin NC]

Sorry, we were comparing apples and tomatoes.