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Old Sun Feb 03, 2013, 11:19pm
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The Ravens' DB should have been called for holding on San Francisco's 4th down play at the end of the game. They were in the end zone and his left hand was still holding onto the receiver's jersey.
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Old Sun Feb 03, 2013, 11:29pm
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Nope. The WR engaged the DB with extended arms. If anything call a hold and an OPI. But that is not typically how it is called in my eyes.

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Old Mon Feb 04, 2013, 12:49am
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Nope. The WR engaged the DB with extended arms. If anything call a hold and an OPI. But that is not typically how it is called in my eyes.
Agreed. 100%.
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Old Mon Feb 04, 2013, 05:39am
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Nope. The WR engaged the DB with extended arms. If anything call a hold and an OPI. But that is not typically how it is called in my eyes.

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Except we've seen that same play called a hold in same/similar circumstances.
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Except we've seen that same play called a hold in same/similar circumstances.
This is true.
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Except we've seen that same play called a hold in same/similar circumstances.
And we've seen that same play no called.
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Old Mon Feb 04, 2013, 09:45am
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Except we've seen that same play called a hold in same/similar circumstances.
That's what I said when I watched it. That has been a hold in the NFL this season. The WR tried to get away from the DB after they engaged and the DB's left hand was still holding the WR's jersey.

That is also never going to be called OPI because as we've seen many times, OPI doesn't have the same threshold for a penalty that DPI does. Offensive players get away with stuff all the time that defensive players get flagged for. There was a play early in the game last night when the WR went over the top of the defensive player and displaced him to knock a ball down that was underthrown with no call.
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Old Mon Feb 04, 2013, 01:27pm
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Except we've seen that same play called a hold in same/similar circumstances.
I do not know that everyone calls everything the same way, but I digress. And it might explain why those guys were working the game, instead of others you saw working during the season.

That being said I have seen that type of play not called at the NFL level and the NCAA level often.

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Old Mon Feb 04, 2013, 10:33am
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The Ravens' DB should have been called for holding on San Francisco's 4th down play at the end of the game. They were in the end zone and his left hand was still holding onto the receiver's jersey.
If the receiver is trying to get by the DB, this call is made. Crabtree turned INTO the DB, they engaged each other, and then Crabtree tried to get away. This is NEVER called - not a 4 minutes in the 1st quarter, not with 2 minutes to go in the 4th. It was as close to a hold as it was to a push off by Crabtree. Good no call.
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Old Mon Feb 04, 2013, 12:59pm
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That was a hold. Arm wrapped around and grabbing the jersey. Maybe the reason Crabtree couldn't get away is he was being held.
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That was a hold. Arm wrapped around and grabbing the jersey. Maybe the reason Crabtree couldn't get away is he was being held.
Grabbing the jersey alone is not holding.
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Grabbing the jersey alone is not holding.
Although it was earlier in this game.
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Although it was earlier in this game.
No. Grabbing the jersey ALONE was not holding early in the game.
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Although it was earlier in this game.
If I'm remembering the same play (and I only remember one DPI being called in the game), then there was clear and material restriction by the 49ers' cornerback on the play.
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That was a hold. Arm wrapped around and grabbing the jersey. Maybe the reason Crabtree couldn't get away is he was being held.
There's has to be material restriction for there to be a hold (and in this case, pass interference)...a simple grab alone is not enough for a penalty.
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