Super Bowl No Call

[zm1283]

The Ravens' DB should have been called for holding on San Francisco's 4th down play at the end of the game. They were in the end zone and his left hand was still holding onto the receiver's jersey.

[JRutledge]

Nope. The WR engaged the DB with extended arms. If anything call a hold and an OPI. But that is not typically how it is called in my eyes.

Peace

[InsideTheStripe]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Nope. The WR engaged the DB with extended arms. If anything call a hold and an OPI. But that is not typically how it is called in my eyes.

Agreed. 100%.

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Nope. The WR engaged the DB with extended arms. If anything call a hold and an OPI. But that is not typically how it is called in my eyes.

Peace

Except we've seen that same play called a hold in same/similar circumstances.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

Except we've seen that same play called a hold in same/similar circumstances.

This is true.

[APG]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

Except we've seen that same play called a hold in same/similar circumstances.

And we've seen that same play no called.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

Except we've seen that same play called a hold in same/similar circumstances.

That's what I said when I watched it. That has been a hold in the NFL this season. The WR tried to get away from the DB after they engaged and the DB's left hand was still holding the WR's jersey.

That is also never going to be called OPI because as we've seen many times, OPI doesn't have the same threshold for a penalty that DPI does. Offensive players get away with stuff all the time that defensive players get flagged for. There was a play early in the game last night when the WR went over the top of the defensive player and displaced him to knock a ball down that was underthrown with no call.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by zm1283

The Ravens' DB should have been called for holding on San Francisco's 4th down play at the end of the game. They were in the end zone and his left hand was still holding onto the receiver's jersey.

If the receiver is trying to get by the DB, this call is made. Crabtree turned INTO the DB, they engaged each other, and then Crabtree tried to get away. This is NEVER called - not a 4 minutes in the 1st quarter, not with 2 minutes to go in the 4th. It was as close to a hold as it was to a push off by Crabtree. Good no call.

[OKREF]

That was a hold. Arm wrapped around and grabbing the jersey. Maybe the reason Crabtree couldn't get away is he was being held.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by OKREF

That was a hold. Arm wrapped around and grabbing the jersey. Maybe the reason Crabtree couldn't get away is he was being held.

Grabbing the jersey alone is not holding.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

Except we've seen that same play called a hold in same/similar circumstances.

I do not know that everyone calls everything the same way, but I digress. And it might explain why those guys were working the game, instead of others you saw working during the season.

That being said I have seen that type of play not called at the NFL level and the NCAA level often.

Peace

[APG]

Originally Posted by OKREF

That was a hold. Arm wrapped around and grabbing the jersey. Maybe the reason Crabtree couldn't get away is he was being held.

There's has to be material restriction for there to be a hold (and in this case, pass interference)...a simple grab alone is not enough for a penalty.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by APG

There's has to be material restriction for there to be a hold...a simple grab alone is not enough for a penalty.

This.

Look I'm a huge 49er fan but I think a no call here was the right call.

[ajmc]

I wonder if this play may be an excuse to revise the mechanics philosophy for end zone coverage. Moving the near side deep official, over to the far sideline, in the vicinity of the 20 yard line. would give the officials the same magical viewpoint as the visiting coaches have, which seems to provide an absolutely perfect view.

[Andy]

Question for you all as I am not a football official and do not have any knowledge of the mechanics.

From a football fan only perspective, I could agree with a call or a no-call on the play. My question is the positioning of the officials. From what I saw, the two officials who could have had a look at the play were both straight lined and looking through the players. The side official (SJ?) was almost directly behind the receiver and the Back Judge was moving toward the play along the back line of the EZ, looking through the defensive back.

I'd be interested to hear any thoughts that any of you may have on this.