Replay Official cannot rule on Possession

[APG]

Back when Mike Peirra was head of officiating and was doing his weekly segment...there was a joint possession play and he mentioned joint possession is not reviewable.

[APG]

NFL supports decision to not overturn Seahawks' touchdown - NFL.com

Replay Official Howard Slavin stopped the game for an instant replay review. The aspects of the play that were reviewable included if the ball hit the ground and who had possession of the ball. In the end zone, a ruling of a simultaneous catch is reviewable. That is not the case in the field of play, only in the end zone.

[Adam]

I believe I predicted this. They either had to do this or end the lockout (regardless of whether this had anything to do with the replacement officials.)

I will notice they really didn't say whether the simultaneous possession call was actually correct. Only that it wasn't reversible.

[Trap]

I think the NFL is obviously being careful what they say. They are more or less saying that they shouldn't or couldn't reverse the call. I also think the mention of the the pass interference was to admit it was wrong, but not throw the officials under the bus.

It's pretty obvious to most, it was wrong call. Except to 3 people ( side judge, referee, and replay official) at the game and a couple other "sympathetic" voices.

Tho I also do wonder if the replay official actually knew he could review it. Because until lately, everything I heard was that the possesion part was not reviewable and still hear conflicting info. So how is he suppose to know.

[bigjohn]

Replay Official Howard Slavin stopped the game for an instant replay review. The aspects of the play that were reviewable included if the ball hit the ground and who had possession of the ball. In the end zone, a ruling of a simultaneous catch is reviewable. That is not the case in the field of play, only in the end zone.

Right, Jeff?

[rulesmaven]

A couple of interesting things there.

First, the booth called for a review. I think that's pretty significant. I believe the statistics on booth initiated reviews show a much higher reversal rate than coach challenges. The NFL doesn't seem to have a published standard for when the replay booth should call for a review. In practice, though, they tend only to buzz if there is some solid evidence that the play may have been called incorrectly on the field. Put another way, it tends to be more than just, "hey, why don't you have a look." Typically, a buzz means there's a significant question.

Second, the release says the ref actually did review the play. That was unclear from the telecast. It never showed him under the hood. But, from the time that elapsed, it appears to have been a very quick review.

Originally Posted by Trap

It's pretty obvious to most, it was wrong call. Except to 3 people ( side judge, referee, and replay official) at the game and a couple other "sympathetic" voices.

Tho I also do wonder if the replay official actually knew he could review it. Because until lately, everything I heard was that the possesion part was not reviewable and still hear conflicting info.

I think you're reading it wrong. The replay official concluded there was enough question to call for a review. He did not affirm the call in any way. It was the ref who did so, after being told by the booth to review it.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rulesmaven

I think you're reading it wrong. The replay official concluded there was enough question to call for a review. He did not affirm the call in any way. It was the ref who did so, after being told by the booth to review it.

Are we so sure about this? I have seen some evidence that the league wanted the replay guys (who are regular officials) to have them bail the guys out of obvious mistakes.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Trap

I think the NFL is obviously being careful what they say. They are more or less saying that they shouldn't or couldn't reverse the call. I also think the mention of the the pass interference was to admit it was wrong, but not throw the officials under the bus.

It's pretty obvious to most, it was wrong call. Except to 3 people ( side judge, referee, and replay official) at the game and a couple other "sympathetic" voices.

Tho I also do wonder if the replay official actually knew he could review it. Because until lately, everything I heard was that the possesion part was not reviewable and still hear conflicting info. So how is he suppose to know.

And by "sympathetic" voices, you mean "those who don't see it like I do."