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Old Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:20pm
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I get the dual possession. I don't get the lack of OPI on that play. The shove in the back was quite blatant.
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Old Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:23pm
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I get the dual possession. I don't get the lack of OPI on that play. The shove in the back was quite blatant.
You're just not going to get either DPI or OPI in a jump ball situation...

Nor should you.
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Old Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:27pm
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You're just not going to get either DPI or OPI in a jump ball situation...

Nor should you.
Yes, you can, when the push is not incidental to the play. This is no doubt OPI.
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You're just not going to get either DPI or OPI in a jump ball situation...

Nor should you.
A receiver shoves a defender in the back and out of the way while the ball is in the air is permissible as long as it is a jump ball?
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Old Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:30pm
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A receiver shoves a defender in the back and out of the way while the ball is in the air is permissible as long as it is a jump ball?
Sadly, a jump ball is known to be a free-for-all...
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Old Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:34pm
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I have a TD on the play. The receiver has both feet on the ground when his second hand moves in to have both hands on the ball. The defender you can still see his left foot still in the air. By then the process for completing the catch was made by the Seattle player.

Remember in the NFL you have to have control of the ball AND have both feet or something other than the feet touch the ground. You have to go through that whole process. The Seattle player was the first to complete the process. It wasn't even simultaneous it was a catch completed by Seattle.
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Old Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:03am
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Blown calls (2) on the last play.

Blatant OPI. I would have flagged than in an instant!

Interception. No way would I have given a TD on a play where a player sticks one hand in there.

The NFL "Brand" is being cheapened by the use of these incompetent replacement officials. The NFL has long been the best sports league because of the professionalism in all aspects. No way can you match the speed, intensity and complexity of the NFL with D-III and HS officials. How sad to see the league decline like this.
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Old Tue Sep 25, 2012, 12:51pm
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it looked to me like the right call
I thought I was the only one in the world that thought that. And I didn't even think it was all that close, but I didn't know the NFL rule for sure.

Had this happened in an NCAA game and I was the calling official, I would have ruled it a TD.
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Old Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:16pm
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Uncalled for. Stop it now.

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Old Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:41pm
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Uncalled for. Stop it now.

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Old Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:51pm
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In High School this 100% would have been called a TD as you cannot have possession until you hit the ground. Again, I don't know the NFL rule nuances such as control vs possession and what not, so I am not qualified to talk about the ruling on the field.

But in HS 100% a TD.
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Old Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:55pm
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BTW, the guy that was the Back Judge, he is a former Big 12 and Arena Football League Official. That is the kind of guy that actually gets hired in the NFL as the Arena League was often used as a training ground for NFL prospects and current NFL officials.

And the formation was set to the opposite side of the field with trips, so I want to know where he else he was supposed to be located?

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Old Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:05pm
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BTW, the guy that was the Back Judge, he is a former Big 12 and Arena Football League Official. That is the kind of guy that actually gets hired in the NFL as the Arena League was often used as a training ground for NFL prospects and current NFL officials.

And the formation was set to the opposite side of the field with trips, so I want to know where he else he was supposed to be located?

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Purposefully towards that area of the end zone to get into a better position to officiate the back of the end zone and help the other official as soon as he sees the ball going in that direction?
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Old Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:56pm
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Pretty sure that OPI would have been called in most HS games!
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Old Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:00pm
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Pretty sure that OPI would have been called in most HS games!
I disagree as most jump balls a lot of things happen and with 5 officials? I am not so sure about it being called or seen.

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