Nfl opi

MD Longhorn · #1 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 17, 2012, 08:57am

What's the NFL penalty for OPI - just 5 yards? No LOD?

Welpe · #2 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 17, 2012, 09:18am

10 yards, no LOD.

MD Longhorn · #3 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 17, 2012, 09:21am

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Originally Posted by Welpe

10 yards, no LOD.

I think they only marked off 5 last night on the Lions during the final drive.

Welpe · #4 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 17, 2012, 09:50am

They were having some issues with PI last night...

APG · #5 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 17, 2012, 10:59am

According to the official play-by-play, the ball was at the 32 prior to the penalty...then the ball was snapped on the 42 after the OPI penalty.

tjones1 · #6 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 17, 2012, 11:32am

It should be a loss of down... but that's another topic.

Robert Goodman · #7 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 17, 2012, 12:53pm

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It should be a loss of down... but that's another topic.

Hell, it should be loss of ball. And at one time, it was.

JugglingReferee · #8 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 17, 2012, 12:59pm

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Hell, it should be loss of ball. And at one time, it was.

I disagree. Loss of possession is way too much of a penalty.

Welpe · #9 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 17, 2012, 01:22pm

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It should be a loss of down... but that's another topic.

No...Fed can keep that one for themselves.

Robert Goodman · #10 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 17, 2012, 01:33pm

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I disagree. Loss of possession is way too much of a penalty.

When you interfere with the other team's player's opp'ty to catch the ball -- whether they were the passing team or you were -- why shouldn't the penalty be at least as if the fouled player had caught the ball there?

The justification at lower levels for an enforcement from the previous spot is that the players don't catch as well, so the rules don't presume the fouled player would've caught the ball.

JugglingReferee · #11 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 17, 2012, 01:50pm

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When you interfere with the other team's player's opp'ty to catch the ball -- whether they were the passing team or you were -- why shouldn't the penalty be at least as if the fouled player had caught the ball there?

The justification at lower levels for an enforcement from the previous spot is that the players don't catch as well, so the rules don't presume the fouled player would've caught the ball.

The offence has the advantage of knowing the play. That is their advantage and it should remain.

APG · #12 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 17, 2012, 02:00pm

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Originally Posted by welpe

no...fed can keep that one for themselves.

+1

Rich · #13 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 17, 2012, 02:14pm

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+1

I agree. If I was king, the first thing I'd remove from NFHS rules is the LOD on OPI. Well, it would be in the Top 10 anyway.

Robert Goodman · #14 (**permalink**) Tue Sep 18, 2012, 08:08am

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The offence has the advantage of knowing the play. That is their advantage and it should remain.

I don't understand what you mean. Because they know the play, shouldn't they be even more liable in some way for PI? How does the advantage of knowing the play mitigate their player's responsibility to not interfere with an opponent's attempt at a catch? A defender might have his back to the ball and not know a pass is on the way.

JugglingReferee · #15 (**permalink**) Tue Sep 18, 2012, 08:47am

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I don't understand what you mean. Because they know the play, shouldn't they be even more liable in some way for PI? How does the advantage of knowing the play mitigate their player's responsibility to not interfere with an opponent's attempt at a catch? A defender might have his back to the ball and not know a pass is on the way.

The NFL doesn't have a LOD for OPI. From what I suspect, neither does the NCAA. And neither do all codes of Canadian football. Maybe, just maybe, the Fed is the odd man out.