No game

[Forksref]

Yesterday we had a situation where a crew showed up for a sub-varsity game and there was no game and no prior notification of the officials.

Does your association have an agreement with schools to provide at least partial remuneration for the officials? Do some schools do this as a normal procedure?

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by Forksref

Yesterday we had a situation where a crew showed up for a sub-varsity game and there was no game and no prior notification of the officials.

Does your association have an agreement with schools to provide at least partial remuneration for the officials? Do some schools do this as a normal procedure?

The last time I showed up for a game that wasn't happening, I received the full game fee and an apology from the AD. I don't know if that's policy or just a good AD.

[CT1]

Our policy is for the R to call the home team on the day of the game. If they say they're playing and then cancel w/o notifying our assignor, it's a full fee plus travel.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by CT1

Our policy is for the R to call the home team on the day of the game. If they say they're playing and then cancel w/o notifying our assignor, it's a full fee plus travel.

For SubV?

[MD Longhorn]

We get paid. Every time this has happened but one, the school paid us. The other time, they notified the scheduler and he screwed up - so HE paid us.

[umpirebob71]

This happened to me only twice in 15 years. Both times we were paid in full.

[CT1]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

For SubV?

Especially for SubV. They're the ones who are most likely to cancel/change a game without thinking of notifying the officials.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by CT1

Especially for SubV. They're the ones who are most likely to cancel/change a game without thinking of notifying the officials.

Wow. In my experience in Texas, it's extremely rare to even know which one of us is going to end up being the referee on a subvarsity game before we all show up - that's usually decided when we get there. Much less have one of the officials call the school on it.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Wow. In my experience in Texas, it's extremely rare to even know which one of us is going to end up being the referee on a subvarsity game before we all show up - that's usually decided when we get there. Much less have one of the officials call the school on it.

Some assignments are like that here, many are done by crew -- I always get subvarsity assignments for my crew so that we can cross-train each other and work on things together -- especially at the white hat position.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Forksref

Yesterday we had a situation where a crew showed up for a sub-varsity game and there was no game and no prior notification of the officials.

Does your association have an agreement with schools to provide at least partial remuneration for the officials? Do some schools do this as a normal procedure?

I believe we get paid 100% in this case. If they cancel or postpone the day of, we get 50%.

It's rare though. Maaaybe once every couple of years it happens.

[Texas Aggie]

This is one area where online scheduling helps. In the past, pencil, paper, and even Excel, were prone to errors. Assignors and officials both writing down the wrong date. Heck, that happened to me last year (show extremely embarrassed red face here) when I heard "8th grade" while getting my schedule and wrongly assumed it was on a Tuesday. Online, officials "accept" the assignment and are on better notice of when and where it is. Coaches and ADs are supposed to check their game assignment list.

I've only had this happen a couple of times in both football and basketball (30+ seasons combined with both sports). What has happened more often is that we get to the site and find out there is only 1 more or less game than we expected.

[Tom.OH]

I have had several games cancelled over the years and have never been paid a dime. We are considered independent contractors by the state. It is the OHSAA policy that if an official fails to show up for a game and if the school reports him/her the state will fine the official. However if the game is cancelled even though we have a contract for the game we will not get any help at all from the state.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Tom.OH

I have had several games cancelled over the years and have never been paid a dime. We are considered independent contractors by the state. It is the OHSAA policy that if an official fails to show up for a game and if the school reports him/her the state will fine the official. However if the game is cancelled even though we have a contract for the game we will not get any help at all from the state.

In other words, the contact really isn't a contract. It's a one-way document. Same thing in my area.

[HLin NC]

NCHSAA policy-

Officiating Fees for Postponed Games
One‐half fee for the game involved, as shown on the assignment slip, is to be paid each official in any athletic contest which is postponed after an official leaves for the contest. Once the game is under way and for any reason is called off, officials shall be paid the full amount. If the school neglects to advise the officials or booking agent of a postponed contest, a full game fee will be paid.

I've only worked football at the HS level and I've never had a game cancelled on me in such a manner that there was little or no notice. Did have one playoff game postponed to the following day due to snow/icy roads and one JV game suspended at halftime due to lightening which was completed the Saturday morning following. I had to pay my sub half fee as I couldn't make it for the completion.

I hear its a nightmare for the baseball/softball guys.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Tom.OH

I have had several games cancelled over the years and have never been paid a dime. We are considered independent contractors by the state. It is the OHSAA policy that if an official fails to show up for a game and if the school reports him/her the state will fine the official. However if the game is cancelled even though we have a contract for the game we will not get any help at all from the state.

Is that because the game is cancelled or the manner in which it is cancelled? What I mean is it would be customary if we show up and while doing our duty we are paid something. If we are told before we get to the site then we did not fulfill the contract. Same as if we do not show up to a game that we have no contract for.

What happens around here is it really up to the official to fight for their money and that is where the problem lies around here. Many schools will do the right thing here, but many will hold onto $10 if it makes them happy.

Peace