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[Rich]

Originally Posted by bigjohn

Ohio uses modified OT, we can have a first an ten.

As does Wisconsin. Essentially they use NCAA OT.

[waltjp]

NJ too.

[waltjp]

Oh, hypotheticals.

How much time does it take between the snap and the time the ball crosses the goal line during a 19-yard field goal attempt?

Is that enough time for A88 to get 12 yards down field, and then be held in the end zone?

[D Ray]

There must be an error in D. How can you have 4/9, enforce a penalty, then have the next down for A be 4/G? Either the penalty yardage will be enough for a new series (1/G), or replay 4th down with something to go. In the answer D the ball will be at B4 which is 8 yards away from the previous spot. My math tells me that would be 4/1.

For the record, I do not think D is correct. I have not done any research yet, but if one of these HAS to be correct, I will vote for C.

Is the foul for defensive holding under NCAA a 10 or 5 yard walk-off plus a first down?

[ODJ]

Assuming hold occurs after the ball has passed the goal line, C).
Although I'd opt for a dead ball PF, not a hold, B 1/G @ A25.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by ODJ

Assuming hold occurs after the ball has passed the goal line, C).
Although I'd opt for a dead ball PF, not a hold, B 1/G @ A25.

But the ball isn't dead until it's clear the FG is unsuccessful, right?

(I'm new to Football, so I'm following this thread to learn.)

[asdf]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

But the ball isn't dead until it's clear the FG is unsuccessful, right?

(I'm new to Football, so I'm following this thread to learn.)

Almost...

The FG could be rolling on the ground short of the goal line and still be live. It's clearly unsuccessful, but since it's a scrimmage kick, it's still live until it breaks the plane of the goal line, comes to rest with no one around, recovered and downed by the receiving team (defensive team) or goes out of bounds short of the goal line.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by asdf

Almost...

The FG could be rolling on the ground short of the goal line and still be live. It's clearly unsuccessful, but since it's a scrimmage kick, it's still live until it breaks the plane of the goal line, comes to rest with no one around, recovered and downed by the receiving team (defensive team) or goes out of bounds short of the goal line.

Fair enough, but in the OP, the FG attempt hits the crossbar. It's already crossed the goal line. So at this point, once it's apparent the FG attempt is not successful, the ball becomes dead, right? How can you have a DB foul if it occurs "during the kick?"

I was responding to ODJ's assertion that the ball is dead once the ball passed the goal line.