I can't believe I saw this.

[jchamp]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

Carroll then recovered a controversial onside kick.

So you're gonna come in here and tell us there was controversy on a football field, and not tell us anything about the controversy?

[TXMike]

read all about it:

Controversial Onside Kick (video)


Southlake-Skyline

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by jchamp

So you're gonna come in here and tell us there was controversy on a football field, and not tell us anything about the controversy?

After seeing the fox, the onside kick controversy was just an afterthought.

Anyway, Skyline is the big magnet school in the DISD that is predominately black. They are able to get athletes from all over the school district just because they might offer a class that other schools don't offer. For example, culinary arts is one of these classes.

Southlake Carroll is the wealthy, rich white boys, with a few black kids sprinkled in, usually sons of pro athletes. Several of the Rangers and Cowboys live out there as there are several million dollar or more homes.

Sitting on the Skyline side, they were in a flux about "whitey" getting the benefit of the doubt. After the game the Skyline fans were screaming across the way, while the Southlake band played.

Skyline screwed up catching the onside kick IMO, so I don't understand what all the beef was about.

The fox was pretty cool. I've seen some on occasions run out from wooded creek beds close to my house.

[TXMike]

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Sitting on the Skyline side, they were in a flux about "whitey" getting the benefit of the doubt. After the game the Skyline fans were screaming across the way, while the Southlake band played.

Skyline screwed up catching the onside kick IMO, so I don't understand what all the beef was about.
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The Skyline side had a legitimate beef although not for the reason they were saying. Their complaint was the kickers touched the ball before it went 10 yards. While there is one video from one angle that "seems" to support that, all the other videos and angles support the call on the field which is the ball was touched by the kickers just after it went 10 yards.

The issue they did not even pick up on is that the kickers were blocking the receivers well in front of the ball and well before they (kickers) were eligible to touch the ball. That is a foul under NCAA rules which was not called here.

Kickers were allowed to keep the ball and they proptly went 50 yards in a few plays to score the go ahead TD at the end of the game.

[Steven Tyler]

[QUOTE=TXMike;804523]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

Sitting on the Skyline side, they were in a flux about "whitey" getting the benefit of the doubt. After the game the Skyline fans were screaming across the way, while the Southlake band played.

Skyline screwed up catching the onside kick IMO, so I don't understand what all the beef was about.
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The Skyline side had a legitimate beef although not for the reason they were saying. Their complaint was the kickers touched the ball before it went 10 yards. While there is one video from one angle that "seems" to support that, all the other videos and angles support the call on the field which is the ball was touched by the kickers just after it went 10 yards.

The issue they did not even pick up on is that the kickers were blocking the receivers well in front of the ball and well before they (kickers) were eligible to touch the ball. That is a foul under NCAA rules which was not called here.

Kickers were allowed to keep the ball and they proptly went 50 yards in a few plays to score the go ahead TD at the end of the game.

I just felt Skyline laid back too much in attempting to field the kick, but your point about the foul tells me a little more.

I read in the DMN today that Skyline was going to protest the onside kick ruling, and something about the Austin chapter Doubt it will do any good.

If you get a chance, go the Dallas Morning News high school sports web page. There are some interesting tidbits about Texas high school playoffs from the olden days............

check the link about first UIL title game constroversy involves Dallas team.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/high-schools/

The link only provides one story, but there were about six more if you can click around and find them.

[dave30]

People take high school sports way too seriously.

[JugglingReferee]

This exact play happened in a provincial final in my province.

It was later concluded that the officials did not know of the illegal blocking rule, and therefore didn't know to consider it a foul. They were too focused on first touched/last touched.

Perhaps these officials didn't know of the illegal blocking rule.

[TXMike]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

This exact play happened in a provincial final in my province.

It was later concluded that the officials did not know of the illegal blocking rule, and therefore didn't know to consider it a foul. They were too focused on first touched/last touched.

Perhaps these officials didn't know of the illegal blocking rule.

6 of the 7 work some level of college football. They knew the rule. Although none have publicly commented that I know of, a more likely explanation is "ball watching".