Oregon 2-pt play?

[Smoothieking]

In the Stanford game, the Oregon long snapper snapped the ball sideways in the swinging gate formation, and then went out for a pass, caught the ball and scored. How can the snapper be an eligible receiver?

[TXMike]

He was wearing an eligible number and was on the end of the line so under NCAA rules, he was eligible

[JugglingReferee]

The person that snaps the ball does not need to be an ineligible pass receiver.

It's just that it usually is.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by TXMike

He was wearing an eligible number and was on the end of the line so under NCAA rules, he was eligible

As he would have been under NFHS rules as well.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

As he would have been under NFHS rules as well.

CANADIAN RULING:

Legal.

[chymechowder]

he wasn't standing with his shoulders perpendicular to the neutral zone, though, was he? (like the Maine / James Madison game)

[TXMike]

No he was lined up legally

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by Smoothieking

In the Stanford game, the Oregon long snapper snapped the ball sideways in the swinging gate formation, and then went out for a pass, caught the ball and scored. How can the snapper be an eligible receiver?

What you're really asking is, how can an end be the snapper? And the answer is that the rest of the OL doesn't have to be on both sides of the ball.

[Smoothieking]

Thanks for the replies. I was looking for clarification that the player snapping the ball could indeed be an eligible receiver.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Smoothieking

Thanks for the replies. I was looking for clarification that the player snapping the ball could indeed be an eligible receiver.

NCAA and NFHS have the same restrictions on eligibility. The player must be BOTH (1) a back or end, AND (2) wearing an eligible number (1-49, 80-99).

These are the ONLY conditions on eligibility. So if the snapper meets them, he's eligible.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by mbyron

NCAA and NFHS have the same restrictions on eligibility. The player must be BOTH (1) a back or end, AND (2) wearing an eligible number (1-49, 80-99).

Except that in NCAA, condition 1 is to be a back, an end, or a player in position to receive a hand-to-hand snap from between the snapper’s legs. That last position in Fed is defined as a back, but NCAA has not chosen to make that consolidation. NFL still hasn't extended eligibility to receive a forward pass to a player in that position.

[Steven Tyler]

I didn't see the play as I left the room after Oregon scored, but don't the coaches usually check with the refs before the game to discuss the legality of trick plays.

[SC Ump]

For NFHS, this exception to the numbering requirements as noted in 7-2-5(b) might be the only time a snapper would not be allowed to be an eligable receiver:

1. On first, second or third down, when A sets or shifts into a scrimmage-kick formation as in 2-14-2a, the snapper may be a player numbered 1 to 49 or 80 to 99. If Team A has the snapper in the game under this exception, Team A shall have at least four players wearing numbers 50-79 on its line of scrimmage. The snapper in the game under this exception must be between the ends and is an ineligible forwardpass receiver during that down unless the pass is touched by B (7-5-6b).

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by SC Ump

For NFHS, this exception to the numbering requirements as noted in 7-2-5(b) might be the only time a snapper would not be allowed to be an eligable receiver:

1. On first, second or third down, when A sets or shifts into a scrimmage-kick formation as in 2-14-2a, the snapper may be a player numbered 1 to 49 or 80 to 99. If Team A has the snapper in the game under this exception, Team A shall have at least four players wearing numbers 50-79 on its line of scrimmage. The snapper in the game under this exception must be between the ends and is an ineligible forwardpass receiver during that down unless the pass is touched by B (7-5-6b).

So, on fourth down or an extra point attempt the jersey numbering doesn't apply, per say? Clue me in as I'm clueless of the rule as I don't work football.

Just trying to learn a little more or the obscure rules and situations that apply.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by SC Ump

For NFHS, this exception to the numbering requirements as noted in 7-2-5(b) might be the only time a snapper would not be allowed to be an eligable receiver:

The snapper is usually ineligible because he usually has a number between 50-79 and because he's not an end or back, either of which would render him ineligible.

I'm not sure why people confuse the numbering exception with the eligibility requirements. They are unrelated, other than the fact that a player in the game under the numbering exception is ineligible throughout the down.

ANY player who is eligible by number and position is eligible, including the snapper, on any scrimmage down including a try.